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Old 02-04-2008, 01:00 PM   #41 (permalink)
 
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Ian- while the subject of model releases is on our minds, would you mind sharing your model release that you use? I'm just using a boilerplate release form, but it would be nice to see one that has been customized to protect both artist and model without giving away the farm to the model.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:18 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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Ian- while the subject of model releases is on our minds, would you mind sharing your model release that you use? I'm just using a boilerplate release form, but it would be nice to see one that has been customized to protect both artist and model without giving away the farm to the model.
Here you are Scott: Model Release Form. There's a space for us to agree special terms or restrictions but I've only used this twice I think. Being based in London I've not had it checked by a US lawyer - where's Sanders when you need him?
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It's th commissioned ones I was really referring to - which is actually the vast majority. These tend to be commissioned privately and often for husbands or partners. One was someone who said to me - "I'll never look better than this and I want to remember it." So they're images which I wouldn't feel comfortable showing anyone - privately or otherwise. The reason I give the negs is that the client need never concern themselves that such images will appear publicly. Legal recourse for such publication is not the point with these.

I fully understand the point about using my work but, as it's not my mainstream anyway I'm not overly concerned. Plus the fact that I'm very certain that none of the clients has any interest in their publication or distribution. I usually encourage the client to bring a friend or partner to the sitting - not one of them has, but I feel the offer gives them a degree of comfort.

Do you guys find this work difficult as well? Every commission I've had for this work has been for "Fine Art Black and White Nudes." As such, you know the client wants evocative images - but that dividing line is so damn thin!

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Old 02-04-2008, 01:29 PM   #44 (permalink)
 
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I've never had a problem with maintaining the dividing line between evocative and provocative - then again, many folks consider even the simplest of my nudes to be provocative (verging on offensive!). Then again, it's much easier I think in some ways working with male models - the outward signs of arousal (usually considered to be the dividing line between provocative and not) are much more obvious with men.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:38 PM   #45 (permalink)
 
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Yes I can see that. I've never worked with male models. I guess also, that with the vast majority of my nude work the decision isn't made by me - the determination is that of the client / model. The usual commission is always, of course, for "tasteful images." Define tasteful!

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Do you guys find this work difficult as well? Every commission I've had for this work has been for "Fine Art Black and White Nudes." As such, you know the client wants evocative images - but that dividing line is so damn thin!
Nope. I've worked with all sorts of body shapes and ages - there's always something beautiful to reveal. People asking for commissions have seen my work and know what they're going to get. I generally do this for free so if I think they want something that is not my style then I won't do it. On the other hand I find straight portraits very traumatic
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I think it's the keeping the paying client happy that's the traumatizing factor

Whenever I feel like the Lone Ranger in this regard I re-read the Weston Daybooks!

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I have to ration my Daybooks reading - if I overdose I find myself with an almost overwhelming urge to throw in my real job to become a bohemian living on nuts and peppers. That's very scary!
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Know what you mean. Haven't seen mine in a while - I'm convinced the wife's hidden it - or worse.
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Hi, I enjoyed the article and the comments it provoked. MY opinions are very liberal WRT the subject, and although I have never considered taking nudes before, I am sufficiently interested to try with someone I know well. I think perhaps posing as a model myself at the local arts college may be a good introduction to the form... Thanks L.
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