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Old 04-02-2008, 10:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Well, since I have not used this developer formulation, I have no suggestion as to where to put the HAS, nor do I have any suggestion as to how to change the pH.

As for the formula itself, due to the fact that it is quite different than the actual formula, I can't tell you where to put the missing ingredient and how much to use. The actual formula does not use benzotriazole in any form, and it can harm C41 image formation, while KI is used to moderate the image formation control of the Iodide in the emulsions and the DIR coupler release.

So, as a result, the contrast and color quality will be off as will be the edge effects. IDK which way I can only say that it will vary with each film type you use.

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Old 04-02-2008, 11:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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OK - no benzo-triazole. Got that.
You did say something was missing.
What? Do I have to drag it out of you? :-)

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Old 04-02-2008, 12:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Murray;

I said KI was missing in the post above and HAS, and that BTAZ was not to be used. That is it. I have not used this formula and I have nothing further that would be useful to add.

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Old 04-03-2008, 04:46 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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PE - did you exchange on this forum or are there pointers to the discussions? I missed the reference to KI - it was 2am here. Mid morning for you guys. It's all starting to fall into place.
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:13 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Murray;

Look in my post #9 above where I refer to KI. I don't have the specific concentration, nor would I hazard a guess because this formula is too alien to me. I wouldn't use it myself.

There are references on APUG to the exact non-split formula with KI.

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Old 04-04-2008, 10:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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I am not in the professional business and therefore can accept 'acceptible' results and the idea of a home brew appeals greatly.
If you're mainly interested in the developer because it's a home-brew formula, there are others that are likely to work better, such as: one, two, three. I've used both the Dignan formula and #1 in that list, and I get much better results from formula #1. I seem to recall reading something to suggest that #2 and/or #3 are closer to Kodak's "real" C-41, but as I'm satisfied with #1, that's what I'm continuing to use. I like the idea of the long shelf life and room temperature processing of NCF-41, but in my experience it just doesn't work reliably -- some rolls come out looking good, but others are far too thin, often with weird color shifts that are difficult to correct even digitally. If you want to experiment, of course, I won't discourage you, but if you want something that just plain works, I'd steer clear of NCF-41.
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Three is more accurate and two cannot be reached.

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The link to two I posted earlier works for me. Either it was temporarily down or there's some route-specific problem blocking it for you but not for me.
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I can reach it now.

Two and Three are the same formula but vary in using different hydroxyl amine types. No reall difference in result, but rather in keeping.

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