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    Comparison of modern papers

    I have been frustrated by the incomplete information of currently available BW papers and have decided to do something about it!
    I have tested a limited range of papers with step wedge contact prints, then treated each in identical toners. The webpages feature an interesting pop-up for these results plus a comprehensive reference on paper components drawn from each manufacturers' website. I hope to add to the selection but will rely on the manufacturers to supply the paper, as I think I have invested enough already!
    Any positive feedback through APUG is welcome eg. Photo Engineer who suggested I add characteristic curves (!) - I will try to find time for that, but it's a good idea.

    http://www.alistairbaird.co.uk/papers/paper.html
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    Sorry if I'm flaunting my ignorance but I don't do my own wet darkroom printing; I'm wondering if any of the papers you have tested are considered variable contrast and if so what you think of them.
    "Get over it."

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    Nice one Alistair.
    I've really been getting into Adox Fine Print Vario Classic recently and have been testing it against Ilford MG. Your tests confirm what I've found that with the shadows just a little bit more information can be found, though overall it has a more limited range of grades.
    Have you thought of adding a test for just selenium?
    Keep up the good work
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    Alistair, I returned to the darkroom only relatively recently and your site is extremely helpful and interesting. Thanks a lot for taking the time to do it and share it with us.

    But of course, we are never satisfied. Like Mike, I would like to see a test with just selenium.
    "The beauty and profundity of God is more real than any mere calculation"

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    Very interesting, many thanks.

    I too looked for just Selenium on it's own, I'll live though

    Mick.

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    Great work Alistair!
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    Many thanks for the feedback and the 'just selenium' test is certainly worth while. I will have another run of tests when I can get hold of some more papers.
    There has to be a certain amount of compromise in making comparative tests, no matter how accurately they are made. I feel I have let down the Bergger paper because the developer didn't suit it and so the results makes a superb paper look a bit washed out.
    'rternbach': Have a look at the chart page which lists the properties of all the papers tested and if they are variable contrast. Yes I love variable contrast paper but to make a full reply would take up more space than this page would allow! We all regret the demise of some of the old classic fixed grade papers but we have to move on and use what is now available.

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    Alistair,

    Have you tried the Bergger 'NB' paper?

    Tom.

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    Have you thought about using PNG or high quality JPG (95% or higher compression) images for the strips? They would be much sloer loading, but if precision and comparison of the slightest nuances is the goal, it would be worth the wait...
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    Alastair,

    Thank you for all the work you have done on this. I have some of the older papers only because a guy here had a bunch frozen and sold it to me cheap. I have found with some of it, but not all of it, if I add a small amount of Potassium Iodide (KI) to the developer, the 'slower' paper from age prints just fine. I have not tested all of them with toning but will be working on that. I really appreciate what you have come up with.
    Tim Flynn



 

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