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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzanneR View Post
    but it looks like toy camera optics
    As you probably know, glass lenses are available: http://microsites.lomography.com/belair/lenses

    But including one would make it much less of a bargain.


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    I am rather disappointed that the cameras cannot be ordered without the plastic lenses, I would just want the Russian glass lenses.

    I am thinking other glass lenses could be fitted by recycling the plastic lens bayonette mount and fitting to a Schneider or Rodenstock lens.

    If this works out, there may be alternate lenses avalable for the Belair 6x12 from Alpenhause Kamera Werke.

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    for the price of the camera and a "russian glass lens" you could buy a 4x5 camera.
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    Shooting at 16 on the 58 is much better, imo, than f8.

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    Anyone shot a Fuji 617?


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    For the non-believers: It has metering. First 6x12 camera with metering, ever, and generally you dont find medium format cameras with metering this cheap. And theyre not nearly as portable. Most folder cameras doesnt have interchangable optics either, let alone three different sizes to choose from, on-body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholai View Post
    For the non-believers: It has metering. First 6x12 camera with metering, ever, and generally you dont find medium format cameras with metering this cheap. And theyre not nearly as portable. Most folder cameras doesnt have interchangable optics either, let alone three different sizes to choose from, on-body.
    only kind of metering...they call it "zone focussing", I call it guesstimation. have a look at this http://www.lomography.asia/about/faq...-belair-x-6-12 there are "gaps" with the 90mm.

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    The camera has limitations, but I think it's pretty well made for the price. The uniqueness of the format increases it's value enormously too.

    The lenses are definitely the weak point, but that's why the interchangeable lenses are brilliant! I've got the Russian lenses on order, and will probably sacrifice the plastic 90mm to recycle the lens mount for other lenses. Interchangeable lenses on a folder can you imagine? It makes you wish Fuji had taken that approach to the 667.

    I wrote a fairly detailed review of the Belair on my blog:
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    My other camera is a Pentax

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    Quote Originally Posted by filmamigo View Post
    The camera has limitations, but I think it's pretty well made for the price. The uniqueness of the format increases it's value enormously too.

    The lenses are definitely the weak point, but that's why the interchangeable lenses are brilliant! I've got the Russian lenses on order, and will probably sacrifice the plastic 90mm to recycle the lens mount for other lenses. Interchangeable lenses on a folder can you imagine? It makes you wish Fuji had taken that approach to the 667.

    I wrote a fairly detailed review of the Belair on my blog:
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    Nice writeup - do you have any images you made with it posted anywhere? I'd like to see the pudding that is the proverbial proof.

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    Mine arrived a few days ago, but I haven't had a moment to put a roll or two of film through, I'll post them when I do. Camera looks and feels great to hold, think I'm going to like it!

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