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    Fisher-Price (kodak) 110 camera, advice needed about exposure

    So I was cleaning out the attic today, and going through a lot of very very old boxes, and what should I come across but some really really very special camera equipment, one was my grandfather's old movie camera, but the other thing that I was excited about was that my first camera that I ever owned was discovered, at da!!

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    However as you can see there isn't much to it there's a shutter button and a cocking mechanism to set up for the next shot and that's about it, there's no kind of adjustments, it's a Fisher-Price camera so it was made for children so obviously that's why doesn't have much in the way of adjustment.

    It does have a socket for one of those light flash bars, and I actually have a bunch of light bars that I bought off of eBay and then was going to get rid of because I decided I was going to stay away from 110 as I didn't really have a camera and didn't want to spend the money but then I found this!

    Anyway I think they also might make a/electronic bar that's reusable for now I think maybe Lomography might make one?

    Anyway the whole point of this post is what the heck to a shoot this set is there any kind of knowledge as far as what the exposure shutter speed would be an aperture? It's fixed aperture and shutter speed but it would be nice to know what the ideal lighting situations would be for this camera, and I do know that they do have some 110 film available new, as much as I used to shoot a lot of color as a kid I think for this camera I would probably enjoy shooting black-and-white mostly, so do I get the 100 speed film or the 400 speed film and in what situations can I shoot either?

    ANY info would be awesome!

    Thanks!
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    Here is some info (en francais):

    http://www.collection-appareils.fr/x...d_appareil=659

    Looks like f/11 and either 1/60th or 1/150th.

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    I had couple of similar 110 cameras: one thing is for sure - they need a lot of light. As you plan to shoot B&W: when you develop film - push it, nothing worse than small negative that is also thin.

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    I haven't shot mine yet, but Lomographys B/W Orca film in Rodinal 1+100 stand should be a good candidate. I am currently working on a roll of their slide film in my Pocket instamatic 300, but that camera has more exposure control.

    edit: That french page mentions two shutter speeds, not one or the other. Maybe plugging in a flash bar engages the slower shutter speed? You should be able to hear the diffrence.

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    http://www.apug.org/forums/members/m...artridges.html

    if you get bitten by the bug
    and search the subclub.org for the film slitters

    and .. if you want to upgrade, the pentax system (and others) are sweet...
    careful its a feverish addiction

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    My best friend has one very similar to that from her childhood (though hers had a "Transformers" sticker on it). I got her some film, some flash bars, and an hotshoe adapter. We'll have to modify the adapter, which was made for a "standard" 110 and won't quite fit on hers.

    Basically, since it is a child's camera, what you have is a shell over a regular pocket instamatic. You can take it apart and have a very small 110 to play with.

    As far as film, just use it like you did in your childhood. Get 400 speed film and use flash indoors, or 100 for mostly outdoor use (and some flash indoors). The latitude of color film will handle it, just as it does the "single-use" 35mm cameras they have at the drug stores.
    Since you want to use B&W, that may be a little more difficult, but I'd still not worry too much, as modern B&W has good latitude as well.

    You probably didn't worry much as a kid, and got useable pictures, so don't worry now. Just have fun.

    (To confuse things, I believe the cartridges themselves had a notched tab on the end so the camera could "sense" the speed. I'm not sure the new 110 cartridges really match the tab to the film speed, and children's cameras probably didn't detect the speed in the first place.)
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    Thanks guys, yea a while ago I did this to myself... On eBay...

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    I was thinking I was going to get one of those more fancy cameras that you could adjust stuff and start shooting "professional" images on the small format just for fun, but after re-rolling a lot of other stuff, I realize this would be even more of a pain than anything else, so I scrapped the idea and was trying to trade this but no one wanted it. Lol

    Well I threw in one of the flashes and they work, so it seems like the correct adapter for all of these flashes anyway, but do they make an adapter that would turn this into a standard hot shoe? Will have to google that, I think that would be best, trying to find flash bars could get costly...

    So f/11 @1/60 or 1/125? Hmm

    I tried to listen to the difference between plugging it in and not plugging in the flash, it kind of seems like there might be a difference in the speed, but it's hard to hear the difference between 1/60 and one 1/150th, I also just blinded myself because I thought I threw in the flash bar in the right direction where they had already been popped but I didn't so I wasted a bulb and blinded myself good times!

    I'll have to try and get to urban outfitters, they often have the lomography film, I would rather process it myself then have to send it out as I could get costly considering there aren't many labs that can even handle one 10 film anymore which is one of the other reasons I was choosing black-and-white over color... I think it would be fun to shoot the holidays with this camera.

    But it would be nice to meter appropriately-ish knowing the shutter speed and f stop. So thanks.
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    Found this fun commercial in my search...

    http://youtu.be/6NECAlC2b68
    ~Stone | "...of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." ~Dennis Miller

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    I wanted to thank the person above, who posted the link to the French page, however I don't speak French and it's hard for me to translate so I just wanted to be sure that the other person who was guessing that one speed was with the flash and one without was correct, so I'm doing more research so far this is what I found

    http://kodak.3106.net/index.php?p=211&cam=1025

    name: Fisher-Price Camera
    produced from: 1984
    lens: 25mm, f/11 Meniscus
    film type: 110 Cartridge
    picture size: 13 x 17 mm
    categories: 110


    So it's definitely an F/11

    Now for shutter speed...
    ~Stone | "...of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." ~Dennis Miller

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    I found a flash adapter on ebay for my best friend, I'm sure they are out of production. It plugs in where a flash-bar goes, and has an hot shoe. It clamps on a regular 110 camera. Your camera is larger so kids could handle it easily, so the adapter will not be able to make contact in the flash-bar receptacle. The reason is, the socket for the flash bar is in a recessed area. Normally, the top of the camera would be completely flush.

    You can make an extension from an old flash-bar (you'll have to find a socket) so the flash adapter will work.
    My best friend's camera really just is a shell around a regular 110 camera. If yours is similar, you could also take the "shell" off to reveal the pocket-sized camera, and the adapter should clamp on just fine.
    Also, there are some adapters that have the flash-bar plug on a wire - one of those may work. I've one that has a connector with flash bar on one side, and flash cube on the other. I got this to use on a couple 126 cameras I am resurrecting.

    You might enjoy this video about testing flash bulbs:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm8m0fh8nIo

    Fairview Photo, in my area, will process 110 (although they are annoyed by it). I'm pretty sure they do mail-order:
    http://www.fairviewphoto.net/
    Truzi

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