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    Quote Originally Posted by cgmoyer View Post
    What they do is dupe people who dont know of the many other sources to buy these items for less money.
    I see this kind of remark all the time. What are all these other sources? I have yet to see an alternative listed. eBay doesn't count.

    Lomo maybe bringing in people who never used film and thats great, but I question how many of these people will stay life long film users after "the fad" wears off. Just the way I see it
    I have been watching LOMO, pretty much like an analyst, and they've done more to promote, grow and sustain film over the past 10 years than pretty much every single one of their critics. That's just the way I see it.

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    Why does eBay not count? What basis is there for excluding it from a list of "places to buy Lomo"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr82bart View Post
    I see this kind of remark all the time. What are all these other sources? I have yet to see an alternative listed. eBay doesn't count.

    I have been watching LOMO, pretty much like an analyst, and they've done more to promote, grow and sustain film over the past 10 years than pretty much every single one of their critics. That's just the way I see it.

    Regards, Art.

    Freestyle Photo and B&H offer very low Holga prices. I am targeting the Holga since that was listed in the first post. eBay does count- many "toy cameras" are no longer produced and this is the main avenue for getting them, of course along with flea markets, thrift shops, etc.

    We are just going to have to agree to disagree on the Lomo site.

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    I see both sides as correct at the argument of whether Lomo promotes film photography; yes, they do overprice and yes, they do promote it. Whether or not someone will continue using film is up to him, but providing an "option" in this digital world is worth a bravo. You can't really force someone, but you might as well use marketing tricks to sell film cameras for more than they're really worth, which I can't see why classify as "opposing" to any film-lovers' ideals. Aren't photographic materials and equipment overpriced by default? Don't like to pay that much? There's thousands of alternatives out there to keep us all happily motivated and creative!

    Funny thing, that warranty. Can I buy one and sue them for not working properly? :-)

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    Ubran Outfitter and Lomo... yeah, there's an obvious connection! As obnoxious as I find both firms, they are a match made in hipster heaven.

    Whether this does something for film, it will depends on how "hooked" people are on their Holga and/or film. I've seen a few people getting serious about film out of trying lomo cams, but I don't have much more market info.
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    I think this is great, thanks for posting Art.

    ebay etc are great places for people that know what they are looking for. Urbanoutfitters are great for people browsing for a gift or just see something like a Holga that appeals to their creative side.

    I hope they sell in thousands....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgmoyer View Post
    Not quite sure how Lomo is helping the film movement. They just repackage/resell items made by other vendors. What they do is dupe people who dont know of the many other sources to buy these items for less money. I would rather my money go the companies who make and distribute the film/ cameras at decent prices. Lomo maybe bringing in people who never used film and thats great, but I question how many of these people will stay life long film users after "the fad" wears off. Just the way I see it
    Every single roll of film helps the film industry. I've seen many people, fed up with the sameness of digital, try and love Lomo/Holga cameras, then extend into other film cameras.

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    Is Lomo the future of film?

    There are some people that hate Lomo, but you have to admit, they are great internet marketers and in the end, marketers of film to a new age of kids and youngsters, who think film is hip.

    http://www.lomoshot.com/
    http://www.lomo.de/
    http://www.lomo.ch/
    http://www.lomospain.com/
    http://www.lomo.cl/
    http://lomo-love.com/
    http://www.lomo.li/
    http://www.lomo.ph/
    http://www.lomographic.net/
    http://www.lomo-camera.com/
    http://www.lomophoto.com/
    http://www.legolomo.de/
    http://www2.absolut.com/lomo
    http://www.lomo.us/
    http://lomomanila.ph/
    http://www.lomo.se/
    http://www.lomo.art.pl/
    http://www.lomography.jp/
    http://www.lomo.co.kr/
    http://www.lomography.co.kr/
    http://www.lomochina.com/
    http://www.justshoot.org/
    http://www.huskudu.com/
    http://www.lomo-france.com/
    http://www.lomographynewcastle.co.uk/
    http://www.myspace.com/lomographicsociety
    http://www.ozlomography.com/
    http://www.theclickproject.com/lomo.html
    http://www.lomographyasia.com/
    http://lomonesia.multiply.com/
    http://www.pink-sushi.com/
    http://www.fivegreen.com/
    http://lomo.box.sk/
    http://lomographysingapore.blogspot.com/
    http://lomosingapore.multiply.com/
    http://perlyinc.com/
    http://lomo.kataan.org/
    http://www.intransient.com/lomography/
    http://f.webring.com/hub?ring=golomo
    http://www.lomoaustralia.com/
    http://plasticfantastic.my-expressions.com/
    http://www.amolomo.com/
    http://www.lomotw.com/
    http://www.teammanila.com/lomoembassymanila/

    This is just a sampling. Plus there are hundreds, if not thousands, of flickr sites with Lomo captions. Is this the evolution of film?

    Regards, Art. (I'm an oldie compared to the kids and I think film is hip too)
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    Art, aren't you asking that question every other month?

    If there are that many Lomo site, it's maybe also a sign that their marketing works. People want Lomo, they don't want film.

    I, for myself, will invent a category that is called SHARMO, as in Sharp+Lomo, which will mix together proper focus and Lomo, which now stands for the object formerly known as film.
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    If they take a digital camera and sell it as lomo, no. It's an interesting exercise in marketing, and it does introduce film to a new generation, but it's being introduced to them as a medium they don't directly control. It's all left up to light leaks and odd cameras to create originality and a unique look that is now getting a little stale. People who want control of what they create will disregard film and use a D-SLR and photoshop.
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