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    Holga scratches

    This is ticking me off. The foam inside my Holga came off when it got hot. It actually got wrapped into the film roll and wrecked a roll of film too.
    So I tore it out and asked advice on what to do with it. I got the advice to use the loopy side of Velcro on the film back to push against the edge of the film transport (top and bottom so not to damage the film). So now I'm getting scratches across the emulsion, on all frames.

    What can you do to keep the film sort of flat, but most importantly, make the film roll spool up properly and tightly without scratching the film and replacing the foam?

    I'm at a loss and disappointed, as about twenty really good shots got ruined. See attachment.

    Thankful for help, or I'll just ditch the Holga in favor of a Diana.

    Thanks,

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    That really stinks Thomas. I suspect that the Velcro is far too stiff for this application and is putting too much pressure on the film gate. I would suggest using something in the take-up side of the camera rather than putting additional pressure on the gate. If you used a stronger adhesive you might be able to attach better quality foam on that side of the camera. Have you considered some foam from the craft store and something like Gorilla glue?

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    Are you using a Holga N, which has a 6X6 mask included? The addition of the mask has done wonders for my film flatness. I also use an end piece torn from the bottom of a film carton, folded in half, under the bottom end of the film roll; that seems to have helped the film tension. Finally, why not glue another piece of foam back where the original was?

    I sense your frustration, but don't give up on Holga. How else can you have so much photographic gratification for $28?

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    Wow, that's a great photo! My sponges fell out too with my new Holga from Freestyle, and got rolled up ruining my best shot. The traditional way to keep the film tighter is to fold up some cardboard, like from the ends of the film box, and jam it under the film spool on the left.

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    I've had this problem, too. With a new Holga. I assumed it was the film. I've been using artista from Freestyle and how the end of the film is attached has changed. I justed fished out the foam when processing until I got a chance to reglue with some elmers. Now I don't have to have 4 rubber bands holding the back of the camera on while rewinding the swollen film. No problems with the older Holga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asp.artist View Post
    I've had this problem, too. With a new Holga. I assumed it was the film. I've been using artista from Freestyle and how the end of the film is attached has changed. I justed fished out the foam when processing until I got a chance to reglue with some elmers. Now I don't have to have 4 rubber bands holding the back of the camera on while rewinding the swollen film. No problems with the older Holga.

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    Don't give up on Holga. Holga good ! And Holga likes Thomas ! That's a great shot.
    I stuck the fuzzy side of the velcro on the bottom of the camera under the reels on my old foamless Holga. Works fine.
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    Wow, APUGers to the rescue... I can still use the negatives digitally, and create new negatives, so all is not lost. These are hard to re-shoot, so I'll work them over in the unspeakable way.

    Re: 120N - yes, it's the newer version with a film mask.
    Re: New foam - Yes! I will try it, with good adhesive. And I got the tip to use a teflon tape to cover the foam that lies against the spool. That way it doesn't stick. I like that idea a lot! Came from my dad, who had the same thing happen to him. But he's smarter than me and only opens the back of the Holga inside the darkroom...
    Re: Giving up. No way. Just a bit disheartened. It seems every time I go on a photography trip something bad happens to my stuff. Last year for the Minnesota APUG gathering I had a batch of 15 rolls (or so) of Agfa APX25 that pooped out on me. This year the Holga scratches the film. Fortunately it was only four rolls out of 15 that got damaged, but that's still 25% of everything I shot.
    Diana: I will get one of those too. They seem to have less problems.

    Thanks for all of your suggestions and helpful, supportive comments.

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    MAn, sorry to hear this Thomas. That sux A$$ royally! This is really bad luck for you two years running now. I am going through the final rolls of our trip... Did some sheets, and 2 rolls of Neopan tonight so far so good, I also rewashed my other problem negs...No dice I am afraid. So it will have to be next year before I can get some more Palisades Head negatives... Unless I make a dedicated trip one night to do it! Any takers?
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    I glued some foam into my older Holga that never came with foam. I only put it on the takeup side and I just used some random stuff that came with some sort of computer item my husband brought home from work. I used PVA glue which isn't even suppose to work really but it's held pretty well. I get a few scratches on mine but that's because there's only some floppy bits of electrical tape covering up the film gate (again, this is the older model that didn't come with the fancy 6x6 mask). It's always worth checking those bits around the mask and leading up to the mask and not just the foam when looking for scratches.
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