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    What's up with the blur and grain?

    Okay, with the risk of starting a flame war and make myself look like a complete bore.

    After looking at several exhibitions from "famous" photographers, it's apparently not uncommon with what I have to assume is deliberately blurry black and white football size grain photos...

    I don't get it, WHY on earth would anyone opt in for downgrading the quality THAT much, sure, I am aware of the emotional expression and ambience that can be achieved by using deliberate blur under certain circumstances, and of course sometimes some grain gives a certain style to a picture, but still, I've seen SO many pictures from a range of different artists where it is way over head (imnsfho) that just made me think "doh, why, oh why, did they have to ruin these else VERY interesting photographs" ?

    Is it a fashion thing, and I am the old grumpy man, again.. ?

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    It is a fashion thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanzlr View Post
    It is a fashion thing.
    Just like I suspected.... I think it's sad, and it sends strange signals to the world about photographic arts and about shooting with film instead of digital.
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    Warren Buffet once stated that in every business you have the three 'I's: innovators, imitators and idiots. When you see a style done over and over again without merit, you know that style has moved from the first 'I' to one of the latter ones. It'll go away eventually ...
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    no, you are just a grumpy old man.

    Live and let live.

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    Oh please!

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    Daido Moriyama and Takuma Nakahira are two of the most influential photographers of our time, I think grain/contrast as a tool has long been accepted as an aesthetic choice. I personally find totally smooth, full ranged images to be rather...tepid.

    Go look up the Provoke school.
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    Some photographer examples would be nice, because I only know of older photos when it comes to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkroom317 View Post
    Some photographer examples would be nice, because I only know of older photos when it comes to this.
    I don't want to "out" any specific artists here and start a flame war, but think blurry and bad exposed (under/over, most often under), with a dev process giving HUGE grain...
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    No doubt similar things were said about the Impressionists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeofus View Post
    Warren Buffet once stated that in every business you have the three 'I's: innovators, imitators and idiots. When you see a style done over and over again without merit, you know that style has moved from the first 'I' to one of the latter ones. It'll go away eventually ...
    Shouldn't the question be "Does it work here?" And not: "is it innovative or imitative?"
    I'm sure it would be an interesting exercise though to question artists' choices, like would Claude Monet's Waterloo Bridge have worked better in a classical style? (and I think the answer is no, and not because he was the first one to do it)

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