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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan McIntosh View Post
    I edit that statement with one work change...

    ... you should be SEEING just as many pictures with the bigger camera as you are with the smaller ones if your time spent is with looking. If you are not, then there is something slowing you down that should not be.
    OK, I'll go with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by photomc View Post
    How many of you that use 8x10 or larger find that you are much more selective with the subject matter when you are out? Would be interested in how others approach changed after moving up in format.
    When I began to use larger cameras in earnest, my throughput became slower but that has nothing to do with the size of the camera. It's because I began to spend more time making photographs by looking at the only place where they can be created - the groundglass. I am just as slow and make just as few pictures per photographic outing with my Hasselblad now as I do with the 8x10.

    I am also not selective at all with the subject matter, as it has nothing to do with whether or not I will see a photograph. I find them in any subject.

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    I tend to only haul out the bigger camera if the smaller camera has already visited. I'm too lazy to just wander with the big camera.

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    [QUOTE=photomc;489747]Great feed back, and I do appreciate each persons thoughts.

    Ryan & Shawn, think I understand where you guys are coming from. When you go out, do you do so with a purpose in mind? Do you 'know' what you intend to shoot that day? Or do you go out with nothing in particular and wait to see what you find?[QUOTE]

    I go out and see what I can see. As Ryan has said in a near direct MAS quote, I simply go out looking. Recently I've been working on a project photographing Pond Scum around Campbell's Farm. Even then I'm simply walking around the area where Pond Scum is but I'm still open to photographing ANYTHING, whatever it happens to be.

    I think, Mike, that you might enjoy reading Mark Citret's essay titled, "Where to Stand and Where to Put the Edges". You can find it for free on his website, www.mcitret.com Hope the work is going well for you! Best. Shawn

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    It is an interesting contrast in "mindset", The tools are essentually the same IE; Fstop, shutterspeed,optics and film but the personality for each tool seems to change the approach. With each there are merits that guide the days inspiration. I never shoot larger than 4x5 but find that on those days I'm very specific about what I'm after. The focus on these days is more about the study of a specific location or concept and it's integration with light. The days where I head out with smaller formats I call them "sketch runs" It is still about light but far more immediate gratification of the moment and blazing a trail through the day. An adventure if you will. There are so many tools, 35mm pano, medium format collapsable or hassy square that are so easily carried and brought forward to capture a response to the moment. Larger format by it's very nature has the same elements, is very interchangable and offers more tools for perspective control and creates a more refined perspective towards the subject of interest. More thoughtful and selective. So depending on the mood, Smaller is more intuitive larger is more profound.
    Stop trying to get into my mind, There is nothing there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Dougherty View Post
    I think, Mike, that you might enjoy reading Mark Citret's essay titled, "Where to Stand and Where to Put the Edges". You can find it for free on his website, www.mcitret.com Hope the work is going well for you! Best. Shawn
    You were quite correct Shawn, the article describes exactly where I found myself today. Very uncanny, because one place I stopped left me in the middle of a road, another needing a different lens than the one I had with me.

    Thank you very much for the link...I will bookmark it, and read (re-read) it as a reminder.
    Last edited by photomc; 07-08-2007 at 03:17 PM. Click to view previous post history.
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    interesting thread... felt somewhat compelled to comment, even though I was getting alot from this thread just reading. Actually felt I may have something to add.
    I had a semi similar experience on saturday morning. I woke up around 4am, loaded my 3 12x20 holders, packed the truck, loaded the maya dog and drove nearly 175 miles to an old abandoned sulphur factory near houston. A location that was a gold mine discovery a few weeks back. I spent the better part of the day walking around hauling my camera.... I saw loads and loads of images that moved me, yet felt compelled to expose only two negatives. Even knowing full well that more than likely they wouldnt capture what I "saw". But felt worth the effort, even if for only the lesson being reaffirmed that I dont "have to shoot".
    My point, I have found that I still see just as many shots as I always have. When I was shooting 35mm and 120 I shot damn near ALL of the shots I saw. It was invigorating to so eagerly capture all that resonated with me. But the fact remains that as I would go through a 120 roll with 12 6x6 negs on it... there was inevitably ONE negative I wanted to print.
    To compare it with my present working methods, Ill shoot possibly 2 or 3 12x20 negs in a day and more often than not (barring any technical errors) Ill get 2-3 negatives that I feel worth printing (I'm finding exposing all three of my 12x20 holders in a day is a LONG day). So its an interesting comparison... even though Im still "seeing" the same number of shots as when I shot roll film, it seems to have distilled itself down to only capturing that 1 in 12 shot when I bother to expose a 12x20 neg. This doesnt feel like a fully conscious thing either, as I can't say that its something I do deliberately. It just seems to have occured somewhat naturally.

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    hey Mike,

    I go slow with the bigger cameras too. Maybe it has to do with the purpose of using the big camera in the first place. For me big negatives are for smooth tones and textures and I slow down to see those things. Small negatives are for things that don't rely on texture or go by to fast to catch with big slow tools. Lately I've been making allot of 5x8 inch prints either using a splitting dealy on 8x10 or enlarging 35mm and the funny thing is that nothing jumps out at you as better just different textures and a different way to get there. And I do blow through quite a bit of 35mm all at once, but that has to do with trying things with motion that you don't know for sure you got until you print it. So...maybe what you're trying to do makes a difference in how many exposures you make.

    Thomas,

    Really like what you say about intuitive and profound, never thought of it that way.
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    4x5 helped me realized that while there are many opportunities on every photo expedition, one should really direct most of one's efforts into a select few of those opportunities, even if it means missing the others.

    With my digital SLR (and even my 35mm film SLR before that), I spent all my time madly snapping away trying to realize all of the possibilities.
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    Well for someone that does not do that much navel-gazing, this has been great.

    Thomas, 1st great to see your post - hope all is well. As Mateo said, have not considered the intuitive/profound as you put it - I really like how you stated that.

    Matt, it's good to know that others have the same thoughts - and yes driving for miles and hours for 1 or 2 or no negatives does happen, but I wonder how often we actually do see images in our subconscious.

    Also like the way you described the purpose with the larger formats, Mateo (good to see you too!!). You may be right about what is wanted from the outing having to do with the equipment - let's face it you don't find many LF/ULF cameras at sporting events, but you sure hear a lot of shutters.

    Walter, think that the select opportunities were exactly what I was after that day and when I did not find them, went on my way - well put.
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