I couldn't resist commenting on one of his fake rebates: "I don't understand why you would want to fake an image made with film. If you want to do film that badly, just go buy a camera and some film.
Originally Posted by vanourek
There are those who would suggest it is dishonest and misleading to put a film rebate around an image. If you insist on doing it, be sure to use the rebate of a color film for a color image. Otherwise, you just look stupid."
Well, it doesn't really annoy me but my face usually draws a grin.
It's amusing when someone goes wrong on the film type and color. Tri-X frame and a color shot, or as the example in the thread; provia on B&W...
A few months ago I remember to have seen something that looked like an authentic film shot on a clothes shop. It was square. Had edge markings of TX 320 and had a bit of grain.
In the TV, there's a humor show about politicians. There is a section where they play a gag of the past year. The video is shown inside a film frame of Kodak GC400, though modified, it's seen something like "Koikad GC400". I wonder if MP has the Still film markings.
Now, I hope that I won't open the can of worms...
What annoys me are the attacks of some digi people against the film community; specially if they are so ignoramus about it.
I was browsing around, and found a review of a plustek 35mm scanner, now, this is the starting paragraph:
So, people who aren't pros using LF systems are luddites... These kind of people are who popularize a negative idea of film.
Over the past decade digital cameras have almost completely replaced film cameras for day-to-day photography. Although there are some professionals still using film for large format photography and other specialist applications, in the consumer market only a handful of die-hard Luddites are still clinging to what is now a largely obsolete technology. Digital photography has many overwhelming advantages; the cameras are smaller, more convenient and are generally easier to use, you can see the results instantly, delete unwanted images and store hundreds of high-quality photographs on a memory card the size of your thumbnail. Also despite what the Luddites may tell you a good digital camera can beat most film cameras on image quality.
Last edited by Prest_400; 03-23-2010 at 06:37 PM. Click to view previous post history.
Reason: Posted accidentally without finishing.
Sometimes I see an image that looks quite good except...part of the image has natural looking light coming from the right and part of the image has natural light coming from the left.
I've noticed that some people think any camera that's not 35mm, digital, or smaller, is by definition large-format. Terminology that we use daily in film photography is confusing jargon to many who just "buy what they're selling."
Originally Posted by Prest_400
“For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and spontaneity.”
― Henri Cartier-Bresson
Part of my frustration is the continued use of analog terminology to incorrectly describe a digital concept such as film speed settings for a digital sensor. Being in my early thirties and having started with a digital slr before reverting to analog, I can tell you many young photographers are aware they are being fooled with digital. It's not their fault, really. It's marketing aimed at a younger buyer who is just looking for a way to express him or herself. Remember your first camera? Hell, they rarely teach analog at universities anymore. What I can tell you is my digital friends go speechless when they see a print come to life in the darkroom and try as they may, Photoshop cannot recreate that feeling for them. So be kind and educate your digital friends. There's an analog photographer in each of them. They just don't know it yet.
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Originally Posted by jnanian
Originally Posted by vanourek
....stay cool...given the number of comments on his images...no one is seeing them, and so the damage is limited
It is nice to remember, biut it would be nice to forget and carry on to the next day.
I was born and brought up in Iran, a beautiful country full of history.
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The people that use fake rebates like them because it makes them look more masterful.... think of them as master-rebaters.
There is a place for digital and there is a place for film. This forum is primarily about film.
No need to bash one or the other. I use both and I like both. I'm using a fair amount of film and I like it. But I also capture with digital and I like it as well.
I hope film is around long after I'm not around on this earth anymore.
Get out and use some film, use a lot of film, and keep the film mfgrs busy!
Best to Your Success.