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    I'm glad I stick mostly to 120 -- the price increases there are not so bad.
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    I see that's a Yodobashi flyer - they were always cheap with film, especially Ilford. I used to order from them all the time: free shipping and on my doorstep within 24 hours. Don't know how they made a profit, but mine wasn't to ask.

    Anyway, look at the bright side: they're not discontinuing anything. I'd rather pay more money than have to look for an alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erikg View Post
    I don't mean to gloat, I hope it didn't seem that way, I don't know what controls the range of pricing, obviously the world isn't flat no matter what's said.
    No problem. You are not responsible for the massive price difference. It may make no difference but the more we keep each other informed of each other's market prices then the more those price differences are visible to all users.


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    I just recently bought some sheet film - 4x5 HP5+ in the 100 sheet box, here in the US, from B&H. The price did seem quite a bit higher than my mental image of what the film costs (over $1.20 per sheet), I am not sure if there has been a recent price increase, or if I just haven't been paying attention over the past few years. Either way, I do not begrudge Ilford charging a fair price for their film so long as it supports a business model which will allow them to continue offering the film for as long as I want to shoot it.

    FWIW, I also bought some Velvia - that costs $3.50 per sheet, and the chemicals to process it cost me another $2.00 per sheet so it is over $5.00 each time I trip the shutter to get a poorly exposed transparancy . Both the chemicals and the film seemed to be a lot less expensive just a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_S View Post
    I just recently bought some sheet film - 4x5 HP5+ in the 100 sheet box, here in the US, from B&H. The price did seem quite a bit higher than my mental image of what the film costs (over $1.20 per sheet), I am not sure if there has been a recent price increase, or if I just haven't been paying attention over the past few years. Either way, I do not begrudge Ilford charging a fair price for their film so long as it supports a business model which will allow them to continue offering the film for as long as I want to shoot it.

    FWIW, I also bought some Velvia - that costs $3.50 per sheet, and the chemicals to process it cost me another $2.00 per sheet so it is over $5.00 each time I trip the shutter to get a poorly exposed transparancy . Both the chemicals and the film seemed to be a lot less expensive just a few years ago.
    BTW: How are the chemicals costing you 2$/sheet? There's 4*4x5 per 8x10 =~ 1 135 roll. Tetenal E6 1L costs 65$ (12-16 rolls), 5L costs 100$ (60-80 rolls). the 1L kit should do it for about 1$/sheet. The 5L kit should do it for ~0.30$/sheet.
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    sorry to be such a newb on the issue, it seems the price hike has been of about 3 dollars since last i bought the bulk roll about 1 month ago (more or less).

    my question is

    Is it to be expected that a similar price hike will happen here in the U.S.?

    i'm thinking of buying a couple of rolls and saving them if that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mesantacruz View Post
    sorry to be such a newb on the issue, it seems the price hike has been of about 3 dollars since last i bought the bulk roll about 1 month ago (more or less).

    my question is

    Is it to be expected that a similar price hike will happen here in the U.S.?

    i'm thinking of buying a couple of rolls and saving them if that's the case.
    Not sure. I've been into [film] photography for about 2 years and the prices just keep going up. I buy when I can and always have film in stock.
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    Dear All,

    Pricing around the world on all products not just film varies enormously : If you want a spectacular example look at what any car costs in Europe and then look at the USA.

    This is due to :

    1) Exchange rates
    2) Import Duties
    3) Taxes ( Local and national )
    4) Margins charged by distributors and re-sellers
    5) Freight ( Refrigerated for 8 months of the year )
    6) Stock at varying prices in the supply chain

    HARMAN technology strives to offer best value for money for quality products around the world, we clearly understand ( and value ) that consumers have a choice.

    HARMAN technology Limited have no plans whatsoever at this time to increase prices ex.factory on any product, but obviously reserve the right to do so.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

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    Understood Simon.

    Nevertheless, it can feel hard to swallow that in the UK it is possible to buy Ilford products from the US and - having paid shipping, import duty and VAT - still find it cheaper than buying from a UK retailer (including Harman Express)

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    Quote Originally Posted by clayne View Post
    BTW: How are the chemicals costing you 2$/sheet? There's 4*4x5 per 8x10 =~ 1 135 roll. Tetenal E6 1L costs 65$ (12-16 rolls), 5L costs 100$ (60-80 rolls). the 1L kit should do it for about 1$/sheet. The 5L kit should do it for ~0.30$/sheet.
    I use the Jobo 2509 reel in a tank - the reel holds 6 sheets, and the tank takes 270ml, which means that I get three batches = 18 sheets from a 1L kit, so for the 1L kit, using the chemicals one-shot, I get 18 sheets for $65 = $3.61 per sheet. If I use the 5L kit, then I get 18 tank fulls = 108 sheets, so it does bring the cost down to ~$1 per sheet. There is also a bit of savings if I process 12 sheets at a time in the bigger Jobo tank - I don't remember exactly how much of the chemical that takes, but it is less than 2X the amount for one reel. In the end, with the fact that I don't always manage to come back from a shooting trip with an even multiple of 6 sheets, I end up spending ~$2 per sheet for processing my E-6 sheet film. It is still less expensive than going to a lab, and I prefer the control that it gives me, so I'm not really complaining, just making an observation. Sure the cost of the Ilford materials has gone up, but it is still cheap compared to color - HP5 is costing me about $1 per sheet, and Ilfotec HC is almost free, so even with the price increases from Ilford, it is a good bargain, and I am more confident that I will be continuing to shoot HP5 into my dotage than Velvia or Ektachrome.

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