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    To the OP, cliveh, have you seen an actual print of this from Adams (not a repro) in person? Fortunately I have the Andrew Smith Gallery right here in town and have seen it displayed a handful of times. It is an exceptional image and his printing was truly beyond anything I've ever come close to achieving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diapositivo View Post
    I think it is because it is a very gentle and poetic form of memento mori.

    The moon, which is the "star" of the picture, lits the clouds behind it. In front of it, a village sleeps peacefully. In front of it, the white crosses of the countryside cemetery shine under the moon.

    This can give a shiver. The motif of death which is waiting for all of us, and the immensity, the beauty of the nature where it all belongs and it all goes back. The crosses of the cemetery silently "talking" to the moon while the men are asleep. The great eye of God looking at the world, or looking after the world. The contrast between the immensity of the world, of nature, and the smallness of the human events. Each of those crosses was a life, a person full of hope, and anxiety, and joy, and sorrow, and now it's a cross under the moon in an immense plane. And yet, it's as if those crosses are in touch, in harmony with the moon, with the great all. It's not a sad thought which is raised, it's a consolatory one.

    At first this is just a nocturne shot. Then it becomes raising some sensations which are not necessarily rationalised as I am doing above.
    Steady on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klainmeister View Post
    To the OP, cliveh, have you seen an actual print of this from Adams (not a repro) in person? Fortunately I have the Andrew Smith Gallery right here in town and have seen it displayed a handful of times. It is an exceptional image and his printing was truly beyond anything I've ever come close to achieving.
    I think somebody would have a very uphill battle arguing against "Moonrise..." technically. My school (RIT) had a print of it that I would pop in to look at in the dean's office whenever I could. It is technically magnificent and is made more interesting now that you can view finished prints, contact prints, and printing notes online through the eastman house.

    Easier, however, is to argue against it artistically. That is very personal and subjective. I don't strongly connect with it. I do feel it captures a time and place and evokes a lovely feeling of peace and quiet. Of a town, even an entire mode of life in America, that is perhaps dying like the inhabitants of the cemetery that is so striking in the photograph despite being diminutive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klainmeister View Post
    To the OP, cliveh, have you seen an actual print of this from Adams (not a repro) in person? Fortunately I have the Andrew Smith Gallery right here in town and have seen it displayed a handful of times. It is an exceptional image and his printing was truly beyond anything I've ever come close to achieving.
    No I have not, so that is perhaps why I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    No I have not, so that is perhaps why I don't get it.
    What you mean by get you "dont get it"? Do you mean you don't like it? You don't see what aspects in the photo there are that other people consider good art or a good photo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    What you mean by get you "dont get it"? Do you mean you don't like it? You don't see what aspects in the photo there are that other people consider good art or a good photo?
    It's our periodic "I don't get Ansel Adams" thread. This comes up all the time.

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    I don't particularly like it, but I'm repeatedly drawn to it... mostly trying to figure out what others see in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Brown View Post
    It's our periodic "I don't get Ansel Adams" thread. This comes up all the time.
    If it comes up all the time, then it is worthy of debate. However, it is the easiest thing in the world to criticize an image, but another thing entirely to be there and take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    If it comes up all the time, then it is worthy of debate. However, it is the easiest thing in the world to criticize an image, but another thing entirely to be there and take it.
    Usually when it comes up, OP is a troll. Clearly not the case here.

    Cliveh, is it this particular image? Or the body of work that escapes your grasp?

    In general, whereas HCB captures the essence of a place in a moment in time, AA captures the essence of a place without time.

    When you attempt to capture a place, I think it helps to use a tripod and LF... Because then a print can bring a dimension of illusory reality. The closer you look, the more you see. It satisfies the eagle-eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    I cannot speak for Cliveh, I do not get excited or "moved" by Moonrise Hernandez.
    Nor do I. Clearing Winter Storm doesn't exactly drop my jaw to the floor either. Some things by Adams nearly bring tears to my eyes, but not his calendar art.
    Jim

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