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    The subtle gotcha's of real-time landscape photograpy!

    Imagine this ... You are on a lovely grassy knoll on Richardson Bay facing San Francisco with the Bay Bridge and Belevdere on the left and Sausalito on the right. You are shooting 6x17 with a 210 Sironar-S. It's wide. The actual image cropped would be more like a 6x24 or 6x30. You have a roll of Fuji 160S loaded on frame 3. The composition is weakest in interest to the middle left of SF where the bay bridge and Alcatraz are in the very distant background. Timing, Timing, Timing. A pair of speedboats enters frame right and they are heading right through the foreground. You have the shutter cocked and the cable release in your hand. The dark slide is out. Here they come wait for it, wait for it. There in front of S.F. got it! Wrong!!! As they continue their trajectory you realize that if you shot them to the left in the weakest area of the composition the image would have been far more interesting in terms of placement since they were also leaving a pair of wakes in the water across the frame!!!! You only get one shot in the time it takes for them to get from one side to other. Of course there will be no more boats the rest of the session. It's a hard way to learn how to see.

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    Yep---very familiar. The more difficult it will be to set up a second shot, the better the composition will get just after you took the first one!

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    With my luck, the boats would have turned around just before they entered the frame.

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    Would the shot have worked if printed shiny side down?

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

    Francis Bacon

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    I feel your pain. Had similar happen over the summer, except San Francisco was in San Diego, the speedboats were a tall sailing ship, and rather than a real camera all I had was a cell phone camera.

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    150 ways to fail and there is no way to avoid any one of them no matter how careful you become! And the problem grows exponentially if you shoot multiple formats!
    Last edited by jetcode; 09-24-2013 at 10:57 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    I don't mind my own failures. If I pull the darkslide before closing the shutter, or something, it's annoying, but in the end I have no one to blame but myself and it gets filed under "wow, for someone pretty smart I can be pretty stupid!"---which is a VERY large mental file, by the way.

    But speedboats and seagulls and clouds? *They're* doing it on purpose! That's what really gets my goat: the perversity of elements over which I have no control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntenny View Post
    I don't mind my own failures. If I pull the darkslide before closing the shutter, or something, it's annoying, but in the end I have no one to blame but myself and it gets filed under "wow, for someone pretty smart I can be pretty stupid!"---which is a VERY large mental file, by the way.

    But speedboats and seagulls and clouds? *They're* doing it on purpose! That's what really gets my goat: the perversity of elements over which I have no control.

    -NT
    How many times have you gotten your rig all set up to watch the light fade fast before your eyes ... all ready to shoot and someone down on a rock stands up and starts walking through your frame ... the wind is blowing madly and no matter how fast your shutter speed is the bellows wants to go sailing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    There are so many more moronic things one can do with large format photography.
    Like going to LF to begin with? (in that case, sign me up as a moron, waiting for my new ToyoView as we speak)
    Maybe going to LF in itself isn't moronic, but everything certainly gets exponentially expensive, especially the film the larger it gets. LF just make it even worse when you realise you've blown $20 on a single frame that you ruined from your own stupidity...
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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    I find the I have similar issues when using my Hasselblad Arcbody. There are so many things to remember to do and on days when my mind isn't as engaged as it could be I am asking myself, is darkslide out, did i close shutter before I removed DS, what back have I got on, have I allowed for the centre filter in my exposure calculation, tilt/shift, lens shade adjusted, those moving boats have I got enough shutter speed and then the moment is gone. Is all worth when I get it right and 12 shots a roll is a little easier than with 617.

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