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    The photographer denies that it is a trained wolf. What can he do to show he's right, the accusation wrong?
    It's extremely hard, nigh impossible to prove that something is not the case (which is why conspiracy theories are so abundant and hard lived.)
    Suppose he produces Ossian, compares that wolf to the one in the photo, and demonstrates thus that it isn't. Isn't proof that it isn't a (different) trained wolf anyway. (Nor, i'm sure many will argue, that it isn't Ossian. Why, it could be Ossian in disguise! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q.G. View Post
    The photographer denies that it is a trained wolf. What can he do to show he's right, the accusation wrong?
    The burden of proof would normally work the other way around. Not being privy to all the information, I imagine that the panel has some evidential basis (beyond a hunch) for thinking that this wolf is not the real deal (a sheep in wolf's clothing?)
    It would be very unlikely that they simply said to the photographer, "we think your shot is staged because it looks too perfect - prove that it isn't". More likely they have some strong specific evidence (eg receipts from Hire-A-Wolf) that has not been revealed in the story. The photographer then presumably failed to provide a convincing explanation.

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    So they indeed simply said "It is Ossian - prove that it isn't."

    The more disturbing bit is why they thought they had to look into this in the first place. It looked too perfect to be true. They gathered evidence to prove that it is.
    Whether they are wrong, or right: disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q.G. View Post
    So they indeed simply said "It is Ossian - prove that it isn't."
    Which is also what they would have said if the wolf in the photo had been wearing a dog tag around his neck that said "Ossian". Depending upon the strength of the evidence that the wolf was in fact Ossian, it is a reasonable approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q.G. View Post
    The more disturbing bit is why they thought they had to look into this in the first place. It looked too perfect to be true. They gathered evidence to prove that it is.
    Whether they are wrong, or right: disturbing.
    More likely, other disgruntled competitors said to the organisers, "hey, that wolf sure looks like the wolf-for-hire down at the winner's local zoo". They would then have been obligated to look into it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iandavid View Post
    More likely, other disgruntled competitors said to the organisers, "hey, that wolf sure looks like the wolf-for-hire down at the winner's local zoo". They would then have been obligated to look into it...
    Based on the evidence they have that it is Ossian, yes. Perhaps.
    Suppose though that all they know is that some people think it could be Ossian (which appears to be all they have). Suppose too that that also implies the accusation that the photographer was (and will be) trying to hide the fact, and thus will not be telling the truth whatever he says in defence, unless he admits (admitting it would concur with the 'evidence' the jury base their case on, so that would clearly not be a lie, would it?).
    How to disprove that?

    Quote Originally Posted by iandavid View Post
    More likely, other disgruntled competitors said to the organisers, "hey, that wolf sure looks like the wolf-for-hire down at the winner's local zoo". They would then have been obligated to look into it...
    Do they all know that wolf-for-hire that well themselves (and if so: why? )?
    But why did they come up with such an objection? They needed something to latch on to, and i think they found it in the "that looks to good to be true" thing.

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    Don't fool with the wildlife judges


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    Who knows? We only have a sketchy news report to go on.
    I assume that it is a source of embarrassment to the organisers to pull the award, so they presumably think they have good reason to do it.

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    Real nice capture on film,did not read what the photographer gave as defense .

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