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    As pointed out before, cliche is easy to fall into. My only addition to the discussion is to be wary of the "extremes" of SF or razor-thin DOF. Both are ways to enter "cliche" quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony lockerbie View Post
    A good thing about LF photography is the ease in creating this effect due to the long focus lenses involved. Funny how the shallow DOF is being re-discovered these days, almost forgotten in the clamour to buy zoom lenses.
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    My first attempt at LF portraiture and not quite what I had in mind... Still, I'd be interested in what others think (good or bad).

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_c5x4 View Post
    My first attempt at LF portraiture and not quite what I had in mind... Still, I'd be interested in what others think (good or bad).
    There's one where I think a lot of the visual interest has to do with the costume, so I'd probably shoot it with more DOF.

    You've also got some hotspots around the edges of the frame that are leading the eye away from the face, so I'd burn them down to keep the interest focused.
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    What is the end purpose of a particular portrait? I would fit the technique to what you want to express rather than fit the subject to the technique. I would also think you would be attempting to capture the personality of the subject. If it is an environmental portrait it would be an entirely different composition and feeling than a close cropped face or face and bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    i agree completely!
    i never stop down except if i have to
    How can you agree, and use a rule like that?

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    Focus, and depth of field, are two of the (creative) tools available.

    As soon as you start using them in a particular way as a matter of course, it may be called style (if you are the first, and haven't done it often enough yet for people to get bored with it), or it is cliché.
    That goes for any 'trick' that is played for its own sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q.G. View Post
    How can you agree, and use a rule like that?
    everyone seems to be hell-bent on rules
    about everything ... rules are good to a point ( for learning )
    but in the end they are detrimental to the whole creative process.

    i don't have any rules ... that is the only rule i have ...

    unless i am hired to shoot something
    a certain way then i do as the client wishes
    and if that means shooting everything at f22
    and shooting everything like that, that is what i will do.
    Last edited by jnanian; 09-10-2009 at 06:14 PM. Click to view previous post history.
    im empty, good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    everyone seems to be hell-bent on rules
    about everything ...
    You do know that it was your rule ("Never stop down except [etc.]") i was asking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q.G. View Post
    You do know that it was your rule ("Never stop down except [etc.]") i was asking about?
    i think you misread AND misquoted me

    i never stop down except if i have to

    i didn't say *never* stop down, i said *I* never stop down ..
    im empty, good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony lockerbie View Post
    . A good thing about LF photography is the ease in creating this effect due to the long focus lenses involved. Funny how the shallow DOF is being re-discovered these days, almost forgotten in the clamour to buy zoom lenses. I have had a couple of digital shooters that have never seen through a fast prime, and are amazed when they do.
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    I have a book printed in the 1940s where the authors bemoan the huge DOF of the "miniature" format (meaning the 35mm).

    One wonders what they would have made of the DOF of the digicam?

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