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    Wouldn't scratches in the emulsion turn out as dark streaks in the print? I vote with Mainecoonmaniac.

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    You could just scratch up some plastic and lay it over the neg when you contact print. No reason to scratch the actual emulsion. If working from a paper neg then you could just draw (with a pencil) some lines on the backside, which will then be white streaks in the positive image. These can be easily erased if the effect isn't as desired.
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    Scratches on the plate most certainly would leave black streaks on the finished print.
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    This is like a William Mortensen effect with texture screens. The rain is previously drawn in ink onto a glass plate. Notice how most of the rain is perfectly parallel and straight (think ruler). The texture screen with dark rain, and the negative are sandwiched together then used to make the final image. this sandwich is then contact printed onto the final emulsion. This gets light (white) rain on a correctly exposed final image.
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    Some folk are never satisfied. I have just seen the same VON STILLFRIED on another forum now asking how he can eliminate the scratches on his neg.

    I told him that youngsters should be messing around with their negs.

    pentaxuser

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    i'm with you barry,
    but i don't think he would have
    damaged the negative, in case he wanted to use
    it for something else ..
    my guess is still a combination print ..
    2 wet plates face to face .
    one with a negative
    one unexposed and processed and scratched
    with a straight edge and lightly with a blade
    then printed together emulsion to emulsion
    to eliminate "depth" from the plate ...
    or the clear one peeled off of the glass and placed ontop
    of the negative.

    i had never heard of BARON RETENIZ VON STILLFRIED ..
    he did some really beautiful hand colored photographs ...

    thanks for the post bettersense!
    john
    Last edited by jnanian; 03-30-2010 at 12:50 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Thanks for the vote of confidence!

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    I saw a coloured in version of this on flickr recently...
    Screw the rain effect, that's easy, how the heck did they manage to get the wind blowing the fabric back effect? That's a heck of a lot of stiffener!! (plates would have been too slow for it to be a real "action shot")
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    starch and an iron
    im empty, good luck

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    Retouching pencil lines on the negative I think. Dark pencil lines become white "rain lines" in the positive. Scratches in the negative emulsion would become dark lines in the positive.
    Photography, the word itself, invented and defined by its author Sir John.F.W.Herschel, 14 March 1839 at the Royal Society, Somerset House, London. Quote "...Photography or the application of the Chemical rays of light to the purpose of pictorial representation,..". unquote.

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