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    What bothers me about nudes is that they so often deny sexuality. In our culture, open nudity IS about sex unless one is taking a bath or a shower. So, what is there to be offended by? Seeing a (typically) young naked man or woman draped over a rock, or leaning against a tree is so patently false it's almost laughable. SHOW the arousal...give a REAL reason for posing without clothes instead of the uptight attitude that manufactures a silly excuse to bare it all. Or, just don't bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    I don't shoot nudes and I think it would be hard to have a better appreciation for how difficult it is to shoot good nudes than I possess.
    While you may be perfectly able to judge the photo's success ( or failure), I think anyone that shoots them has a better appreciation of what it entails. You haven't done it, so you have no experience dealing with someone who is offering themselves up, in the most vulnerable way, trusting someone to make a photo. I think portraits are a similar situation, but the nude more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaf-Photo View Post
    Painters and sculpters need a very good knowledge of anatomy even to do artwork of people with their clothes on. The proportions of the body always have to be spot on or it will look all wrong.

    Photographers get that fror free.
    so here you answered your own claim : IF they are going into artwork of people with their clothes on...

    But what if they are going into non figurative sculptures?

    And I don't buy that we photographers get it for free... I have become a much better photographer with people with their clothes on, because of my nudes..

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    I had followed that thread since it started. Yesterday everything seemed fine, I went to mow the lawn, came back and saw deleted posts & the thread closed. Looking at the deleted posters, I instantly knew what happened, as has happened many times before (and has been confirmed above).

    As for nudity, I've always felt we are a bit repressed in the U.S. Regardless of photographic intent, what is so awful about our bodies that we are offended by them? That is not to say I don't sometimes feel a photo may be gratuitous, but still, it's just a naked person - no big deal.

    I am honestly more offended by habitually poor spelling and grammar from native English speakers; I have no problem if English is a person's second language, but do expect someone raised with it to know how to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovo View Post
    What bothers me about nudes is that they so often deny sexuality. In our culture, open nudity IS about sex unless one is taking a bath or a shower. So, what is there to be offended by? Seeing a (typically) young naked man or woman draped over a rock, or leaning against a tree is so patently false it's almost laughable. SHOW the arousal...give a REAL reason for posing without clothes instead of the uptight attitude that manufactures a silly excuse to bare it all. Or, just don't bother.
    I whole hartedly agree!
    In the closed thread the word honesty was used.. And I think that's the key.

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    honesty is good
    but we live in a world where
    honesty is not common practice.

    the poster in the other thread also suggested non-honest (portraits) were BS ...

    when BS is the norm, honesty becomes BS
    Last edited by jnanian; 05-26-2014 at 03:18 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    It's in the eye of the beholder. But folks have to define what is art, pornography and erotica. But for the some, any nudity equates porn. I think prudish societies have more issues with sexuality and body image. To be fair, there should be a warning for those that think differently just as those have problem with nudity should not censor those that want to that want to show nude art. Live and let live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truzi View Post
    ... Looking at the deleted posters, I instantly knew what happened, as has happened many times before (and has been confirmed above).
    I too was puzzled until I saw the deleted posts.

    A real shame as I found it to be a fascinating thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovo View Post
    Seeing a (typically) young naked man or woman draped over a rock, or leaning against a tree is so patently false it's almost laughable.
    I'm sorry but I don't see any falseness. Perhaps the photographer's intent is to contrast the softness and vulnerability of the human body with the hardness and permanence of the rock.
    A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.

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    I suppose it is up to individual perception, but when does artistic nude photography move into pornography, soft porn, hard porn, paedophilia, etc?

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

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