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View Poll Results: Square Composition

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  • Yes I like square and this is nice

    79 86.81%
  • No I don't like square but this is nice

    9 9.89%
  • Square for this is lousy, and I like square compositions

    2 2.20%
  • All Square compositions are lousy

    1 1.10%
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    Quote Originally Posted by sun of sand View Post
    I can't stop staring above her knee and trust me I'm fighting it

    It is a nice photo but I think the angles are all competing with one another making the photo want to turn abstract
    I don't like the handrail
    but without it her knees become very tight in that "corner"
    I was going for something that was a bit ambiguous/abstract while showing the entire subject. the angles of the stairs and wood work attracted me to the setting and I wanted to show the similarity and the contrast in shapes of the subject with the setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobNewYork View Post
    I'll bet the committee insists on "Rule of Thirds" too! I've avoided the clubs because of this sort of pedantism. I was once asked to judge a club competition and spent most of the evening arguing that the rule of thirds or the golden mean are not prerequisites of a good photograph. Never again!!

    As for the image - I really like it. To my mind - even if it is the knee, (right or left) that holds attention - the image is holding the viewer and making him or her think about it. I often take in square format - but usually print in rectangle. This tells me that even when I use 6x6, I'm still thinking and composing in rectangles. I think that the images themselves dictate the final shape and, whether it's square, rectangular, octagonal or round an image is good - or it isn't.

    Anyway - JMO

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    Philosophically I agree but like most people I have a predisposition to look for compositions that fit the frame I am actually looking through. The only exception is when I am using a view camera where the framing is more in my head than in my face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkroom317 View Post
    Wow! How did you know? I joined the committee for 2010 in order to get these things changed.

    Can't believe that I forgot to mention this. I love the OP's photo.
    You have more patience than I do - I cannot stand to be wrapped up with that kind of crap for more than 10 seconds. My only experience was when I was shooting commercially and a local club in Dallas TX wanted me to participate in their competitions. I though it would be fun and knew one or two of the members from workshops that I had given.

    After listening to the panel discussions for about a minute. I politely recused my self and made up a fake emergency to get the hell out of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireguy2002 View Post
    Good call on the angles. I was too focused on....knees too. Actually the right knee cap.
    I was going for something complicated/challenging compositionally, thats why I wanted to hear some others thoughts on it. I have had 20x20 hanging around my work area for about a month and the more I see it the more I like it, which is reverse of most images (mine and others).

    Oh well.

    RB

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    I was just giving hell with that statement. I see where you are coming from now. It is compositionally complicated. I do like that(to me) the angles scream abstract while the square leans toward structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireguy2002 View Post
    I was just giving hell with that statement. I see where you are coming from now. It is compositionally complicated. I do like that(to me) the angles scream abstract while the square leans toward structure.
    I don't mind - that is what I asked for. I would never shoot anything like this for commercial purposes - too complicated and complicated = problems/controversy/arguments simple+exactly what the art director asked for no more no less = client happy = photographer needs to shoot other stuff for fun.

    RB

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    Err, what was the question? [mops up drool].

    It works for me as is.

    Was it Darkroom317 or BobNewYork who mentioned "camera clubs"? What a collossal waste of time those are.
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    I like the square and I like your image, but...

    I would have moved the camera just a little to the left, to include just a touch of window, her foot in the lower right corner and her body a little more centered in the square. (But it is not my image, so I didn't)

    Between the off-balanced composition and her pose, she looks a bit stiff and uneasy. It does put a little more edge in the image, if that was your intent.

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    Not that i dont like the model, i do! But i think i would rather see the image without the model. I also prefer the square format that i get with my 500cm. Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post
    I like the square and I like your image, but...

    I would have moved the camera just a little to the left, to include just a touch of window, her foot in the lower right corner and her body a little more centered in the square. (But it is not my image, so I didn't)

    Between the off-balanced composition and her pose, she looks a bit stiff and uneasy. It does put a little more edge in the image, if that was your intent.

    Vaughn
    More window and more space around her foot? Wouldn't that be camera to the right? camera to the left would center the subject more but cut out more of the window and reduce the space around her foot.

    I am confused but interested in your comments - just the way the I read them they seem contradictory.

    Anyway - I framed to optimize the conflicting diagonals from the stairs and the molding on the opposite wall vs their relationship to the corners of the square from a structural standpoint - the pose was mostly inspired by the line of the stairs, back mall molding, and railing.

    RB

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