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    I'm sure I've told the story of my ungrateful cousin too many times already. Long story short, the "pro" they hired, they hired A: on the cheap, and B: solely on a word-of-mouth recommendation. The groom's family was a VERY large Catholic family so they had 13 siblings on his side of the formals, plus some spouses and children. The "pro" shot all the formals on 35mm film with a wide-angle lens, so when they got the prints back, the only time they could recognize a face was if there were less than 4 people in the photo. I did not shoot any formals for them, just a roll or two at the church during the ceremony, and a couple rolls at the reception. Shot them all in b/w, had them printed on matte paper and edited them into a nice album. I did that part as my wedding gift to them. After the wedding, I hear through my mom that "I SAVED the wedding with my photos" and they would be placing an order for prints. That was in 1996 or 1997, I forget which. Still haven't gotten an order. I suspect they took the prints I gave them to Ritz camera and had copies made on the Kodak CopyPrint station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera View Post
    After the wedding, I hear through my mom that "I SAVED the wedding with my photos" and they would be placing an order for prints. That was in 1996 or 1997, I forget which. Still haven't gotten an order. I suspect they took the prints I gave them to Ritz camera and had copies made on the Kodak CopyPrint station.
    Based on previous experience, I'd say there is another possibility, if they were like about 5% of my customers.

    They may still be trying to decide which ones to order .....
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    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    Based on previous experience, I'd say there is another possibility, if they were like about 5% of my customers.

    They may still be trying to decide which ones to order .....
    I know my cousins well enough. They definitely fall under the "cheap-ass bastards" heading. Although by now, if it isn't exclusively the former, it's also part "we just plain forgot about doing it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera View Post
    I know my cousins well enough. They definitely fall under the "cheap-ass bastards" heading. Although by now, if it isn't exclusively the former, it's also part "we just plain forgot about doing it".
    Unfortunately Scott, we can only choose our friend, not our relations, we are stuck with them, although I have managed to outlive most of the more objectionablel ones of mine .
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    Hi -

    I just realized I left everybody hanging. The wedding went well, my only issue was with a flakey flash connection. The groom's parents were very happy with the photos I gave them and thanked me for my work. The bride's mother also shot the wedding and was, if not quite a "joy" to work with, at least cooperative and qualified. And "work", it most certainly was. I calculated I spent 6 hours at the venue, all of it on my feet. I got about 1/2 hour to eat, but other than that, I was working. My wife was a tremendous help as an assistant, I couldn't have done as well as I did without her help and compositional suggestions (yes, I told her this). And yes, "Uncle Bob" was there, shooting video of the vows from behind the celebrant with an iPhone!

    My hat is off to those of you who do this professionally. I will be paying for a professional at my own children's weddings, of this there is absolutely no doubt. I also informed the groom's family that this had been my first and last job as a wedding photographer -- I told them I felt as if I had dodged a bullet and was quitting while I was ahead. So I survived the experience, and it left me with a much greater appreciation of the craft of the wedding photographer.

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    Peter - great to hear that it went so well. You're a smart guy to quit now. I thought I was that smart. Now it turns out that Laostyle17 and my daughter have decided to tie the knot over New Year's in Las Vegas...

    I have questions for the wedding pros and this is good a place to ask as any:

    It's going to be at one of those commercial wedding chapels. I assume it will be pretty much get-in-get-out. A "professional" photographer is included. I would like to shoot, too, mainly traditional type group shots with tripod and probably flash. I would like to take advantage of the pro's setups, but I DON'T want to get in the way. How do I approach the photographer and how do I get as much permission and/or cooperation as possible?
    All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. Choose the one that has heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbromaghin View Post
    Peter - great to hear that it went so well. You're a smart guy to quit now. I thought I was that smart. Now it turns out that Laostyle17 and my daughter have decided to tie the knot over New Year's in Las Vegas...

    I have questions for the wedding pros and this is good a place to ask as any:

    It's going to be at one of those commercial wedding chapels. I assume it will be pretty much get-in-get-out. A "professional" photographer is included. I would like to shoot, too, mainly traditional type group shots with tripod and probably flash. I would like to take advantage of the pro's setups, but I DON'T want to get in the way. How do I approach the photographer and how do I get as much permission and/or cooperation as possible?
    A Las Vegas wedding chapel? You could always try dressing up as Elvis .

    I expect that if you actually reach out to the photographer and express a desire to not create problems for him/her/them, you will both surprise them and get their cooperation.

    Or they will be so difficult to deal with as to make that impossible - but at least you will know ahead of time.
    Matt

    “Photography is a complex and fluid medium, and its many factors are not applied in simple sequence. Rather, the process may be likened to the art of the juggler in keeping many balls in the air at one time!”

    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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