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    Fogged paper...

    I've got two boxes of Agfa Brovira, but it evidently hasn't been stored well, and it's printing a grey tone with no exposure. I've had a couple of people suggest using benzotriazole...any thoughts?

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    use them to make lumen prints
    put negatives plants &c on them
    then a strong uv or sunlight
    chemical free, no processing ...
    you can over expose them and maybe
    a short dip in dilute fix and keep the images
    they usually fade after a while so you need to turn
    them into numbers...

    or you can get a 300 watt light bulb
    and contact print large format negs on the paper
    process normally

    i do both these things with old grey paper
    its fun
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    It can be lith'ed, try googling "agfa brovia lith", its not to everybody's tastes and probably isn't good paper to try your first lith print on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trotkiller View Post
    It can be lith'ed, try googling "agfa brovia lith", its not to everybody's tastes and probably isn't good paper to try your first lith print on.
    +1

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    benzotriazole won't work for that.

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    I would suggest that you try lumen printing with them. I tried this out last year and was very happy with the results. After fixing the paper I washed it and when dry I scanned them. In PSP I played around with the levels and got some terrific results.

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    Lumen and lith...hmm...I'll look into that. I'm really not that familiar with either one.

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    Benzotriazole can make things better but it depends on how fogged it is. You'll likely not be able to get back pure white, it just swings it to the usable side. I've found that, at certain level, fogging can act like a pre-flash.

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    Yes, use either benzotriazole or potassium bromide in the developer (say, one ounce of 10% bromide or 1% benzotriazole) to lower the base density. THEN, after fixation, further the base whiteness by using Farmers reducer. The combination of both methods can rectify more paper than one would think. Give more exposure so that the Farmers reducer will not remove too much density. Experiment. - David Lyga

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    It's two 100-sheet boxes, so I've got plenty to play with. I haven't used the reducer, either, so that'll be another thing to add to the list.

    Lith prints are very interesting...



 

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