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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C. Miller View Post
    The only way from keeping your film from being degraded by cosmic rays is to move it to a different dimension, where cosmic rays don't exist.
    Which dimension did you have in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradS View Post
    The bottom drawer of the fridge has always been completley satisfactory for my needs. Ther is certainly no need to freeze film.
    A freezer is (should be) a constant environment controlling humidity and temperature, the bane of anything perishable, especially anything with organic compounds, even in trace amounts. Any need to freeze film depends on the alternative storage methods and time constraints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Since there are about 30 acronyms using WIP, which one of them did you mean to refer to? I take "Weapon Impact Point" Kinda nice or perhaps "Women in Photography", as it is more on-topic.



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    Waste Isolation (Plant/Project/?) New Mexico or Nevada. Store atomic waste in a salt mine. This was maybe 10 years ago, possibly more. I'm sure someone will correct me. (Oh, and I do remember "Wip Inflation Now!". Just wish I had kept my lapel pin.)

    s-a

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    If your freezer is old enough it should shield you from a close range atomic blast... so says indiana jones lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    I wonder if a thick layer of Twinkies could stop cosmic rays.

    It could kill two birds with one stone .

    What do you think, PE?
    If that works you better hurry, Hostess is filing chapter 11. But if it does, at least you know the Twinkies will last forever

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    Kodak gave us lapel pins for every major thing along with coffee cups. I have them all. Maybe I should sell them!

    PE

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    Typical frost free freezers use heater element to raise the temp enough to melt the little front that builds up. It happens few times a day. So.... that means the temp inside does go up and down on regular basis. I guess THAT doesn't hurt anything?
    Develop, stop, fix.... wait.... where's my film?

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    The humidity goes up and down as well, and my point was that we don't know!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    The humidity goes up and down as well, and my point was that we don't know!!!!

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    The amount of temperature and humidity in a freezer is well-controlled within a very limited range; many factors less variance than the external environment. Freezer systems meet health and safety guidelines and regulations for food safety. Film is likely the least perishable, least organic item in most domestic freezers. Freezers simply reduce environmental volatility and are the most controlled environment in homes.

    Again, the anecdotal evidence is very strong that freezers are a safe place to store film.

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    There is evidence that the fluctuations in temperature and humidity can cause spots on film or film that sticks to itself. This is due to humidity primarily along with temperature changes.

    If you look at a sealed bag of some moist product that has been frozen, you will see water accumulate in the container. It is coming form the product and is causing freezer burn. This happens on a micro scale with moisture and organics in film! It can hurt film. See the word "CAN" in that sentence. It can hurt film. Not "WILL" or "MUST".

    So, you buys your ticket and takes your chances.

    Best of luck.

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