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    And some of us totally mis-use it by putting such a hi Res film in an old funky low res camera (original Dianna Camera)!

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    At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.

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    The attachment in post #29 would fall under what I called controlled lighting situations (ie studio work etc). Upon examination, it would also call it a special effect. Notice how abrupt the transitions are from middle values down to featureless black. That is one of the hallmarks of document films. If that is the aesthetic decision, there is nothing wrong with it. But for general purpose photography, it can sometimes lead to harsh tonalities, empty shadows, and empty highlights.

    I'm not arguing against special applications - although I still maintain a picture made with a document film will never look like it was made with a larger format, with the exception of graininess. That, however, is somewhat a matter of personal opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael R 1974 View Post
    The attachment in post #29 would fall under what I called controlled lighting situations (ie studio work etc). I'm not arguing against those applications - although I still maintain a picture made with a document film will never look like it was made with a larger format, with the exception of graininess. That, however, is somewhat a matter of personal opinion.
    true. I have mostly used it in a controlled setting.

    But several (IIRC) has plainly stated that this film isn't really a good one for pictorial work! (Not you Michael)+(thanks Thomas for your explanation)...

    I'll take a tour outside and see what I get. Can't see why it should present ant problems (but I can be wrong of course).

    I have always loved the extra red sensitivity - and the smoothness the film provides has more than once made it the "secret weapon" in portrait photography (not to mention nudes..). Skin tones like porcelaine.

    My all time favourite film. Sad it is gone!!

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    From Prairie Creek Trail

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    But perhaps Copy film is not a "Document Film"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gandolfi View Post
    true. I have mostly used it in a controlled setting.

    But several (IIRC) has plainly stated that this film isn't really a good one for pictorial work! (Not you Michael)+(thanks Thomas for your explanation)...

    I'll take a tour outside and see what I get. Can't see why it should present ant problems (but I can be wrong of course).

    I have always loved the extra red sensitivity - and the smoothness the film provides has more than once made it the "secret weapon" in portrait photography (not to mention nudes..). Skin tones like porcelaine.

    My all time favourite film. Sad it is gone!!
    No arguments here if it works for your application.

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    I have about 4 frames left on each roll to go through, then I will soup it and give it a good look-see. I could go either way on it, if I can master it and make great imagery, why not use it. If not, it's not like PanF or TMX in 120 are going to be a detriment to my vision and or skill set.

    Keep it coming guys, I am sure I am not the only person who has or will ask this question...

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    Found a couple of portraits, actually photographed outside. Normal metering (old Topcon RE Super) - no reflection screen - just an image...

    And then I found a tight crop of the models eye... 35mm
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    Those are amazing examples, Emil.

    Goes to show that not only thinking outside the box, but disregarding it all together, is a good idea!
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    So to summarize ...

    To get great "pictorial" results from Tech Pan, start by channelling your inner "gandolfi".

    Have I missed anything?
    Matt

    “Photography is a complex and fluid medium, and its many factors are not applied in simple sequence. Rather, the process may be likened to the art of the juggler in keeping many balls in the air at one time!”

    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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    That's insane.

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