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    [Getting] Extreme grain

    Tri-x is my weapon of choice, but for a project I'm doing I'm looking for extremely "bad" grainy film + developer [and available in 120]

    Can anyone make a suggestion [with links to examples if possible]

    Thanks in advance.

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    I like Delta 3200 when I want grain. Developed normally in DD-X, it has accentuated, but regular, grain, providing a nice texture. I'd assume that if it were "abused" (over-exposure, over-development, hot developer), it might produce more radical effects.

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    If you REALLY want extreme grain,go with the delta 3200 in 35mm format-even a 6x4 print is seriously grainy,and as for an 8x10...:o

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    Delta 3200 pushed to 6400 in Rodinal 1:50... I've never tried it, but I'm sure that it's super grainy. Even Delta 3200 shot at box speed in Rodinal 1:25 is very grainy.
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    Delta 3200 exposed at 2000, then stand-developed in half-strength FX-2. Agitate for one minute, leave for 20, agitate 30 seconds, stop (or water wash) after 45 minutes. Extremely compensating, extremely grainy, will give printable negatives from any film at just about any speed.

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    If you're after "bad" grain, I'd rather go with Tri-X pushed to the extreme. Delta 3200 is very grainy but is extremely even and has a good structure. Tri-X pushed about seven stops should do the trick. I've maxed out at EI 12,800 in ID-11.

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    Tri-X at EI200, developed in Ethol TEC, between 22-25 minutes

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    Tri-X in Dektol is a pretty classic way of producing big grain. Hunt around on the net and you should find examples and recommended dilutions.

    Tri-X in ABC pyro is grainy, but with beautiful highlights and very sharp. If you're shooting 6x6 or 645 and using a condensor enlarger the grain should stand out. 6x7 and larger with a diffusion enlarger and it might not be grainy enough for your tastes.
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    Try reloading delta 3200 into a Pentax 110! Recode the cassete for 400, meter off something light (skin), and dev for 800-1000.

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    You can also use reticulation to get grain. The process is as follows:

    Develop Film Normally.

    Rinse in stop bath 1 minute at 140-150 degrees F.

    Immerse film in cold water (below 40 degrees) for 1 minute.

    Immerse in hot water 180 degress for 1 minute.

    Fix with hardening fixer.

    Wash film 20 minutes.

    Do not use photo flo and do not squeege - the film emulsion is very soft.

    For added effect - freeze the film.

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