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    Which finish?

    I'm been burning the midnight oil recently working with matt and glossy fibre, but can't really decide which I prefer.

    The matt gives me a look which I suppose I tend to think of as that "illusive fine art look", also good tonal range, natural looking deep blacks, reasonably bright highlights and a feel I can't describe.

    The glossy also gives me good tonal range, not so natural deep blacks but with brighter highlights and of course a shine that make reflections look more natural.

    So which finish do you prefer and why?

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    It probably depends on the particular brand of paper, but I generally like glossy fiber that's been allowed to dry naturally (as opposed to ferrotyped). Matte finish is sometimes okay, but I find it usually dulls the blacks a bit. On the other hand, that can work for some prints.
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    David speaks for me on this matter.

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    Another vote for glossy paper dried matte.
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    I kinda like matte better than air-dried glossy but, as already stated, it depends. Right now, all I have in my darkroom is matte fiber paper and pearl surface RC.

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    I haven't graduated to FB yet but for RC it's matt every time i'm afraid.
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    I guess it does depend on the final use so maybe I'm just printing things that should be on Matt at the moment. All my stuff is air dried as I don't have a dryer.

    Lee I've heard that Pearl RC looks almost similar to Fibre if selenium toned, have you tried that combo yet?

    Sparx so why Matt for you?

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    I've used Pearl RC, and it's my preference for RC, but it doesn't look anything like fibre, even if selenium toned. It's its own look. If you have any postcards I've printed, they are mostly on Pearl RC.
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    The pearl surface Ilford MG IV RC doesn't take much if any color from selenium but the toner does remove the slightly green tint in the paper. I honestly never noticed this green tint until I compared untoned prints to selenium toned ones. The pearl Ilford WT RC tones beautifully at whatever dilution you want. It's like a well-trained puppy in selenium--it sits up, rolls over, speaks and does anything to please you. Virtually the same as the glossy fiber. Both the WT fiber and RC also look gorgeous in Nelson gold toner but it's a labor intensive toner that's used hot.

    I recently bought a lot of other brands of fiber paper to try out (all matte or semi-matte). I'm hoping to get some quality darkroom time over the next month or so and do a little experiementation with the Nelson gold and selenium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPPhotog
    I guess it does depend on the final use so maybe I'm just printing things that should be on Matt at the moment. All my stuff is air dried as I don't have a dryer.

    Lee I've heard that Pearl RC looks almost similar to Fibre if selenium toned, have you tried that combo yet?

    Sparx so why Matt for you?
    Anything on RC does not come anywhere near what fiber paper is. RC does not tone as effectively. Beyond the toning considerations, the blacks do not exhibit the dmax of fiber (as substantiated by densitometric evaluation).

    In my estimation RC is for throw away work. Personally, I print everything that I print on glossy air dried paper...that means work prints and fine prints. The enlarging papers that I favor are Seagull graded (slightly better dmax then VC) and VC for neutral toned and Forte (JandC Classic) for warm toned images. For contact printing I do Azo.

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