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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Caulfield View Post
    Quite a well-made video, but doesn't he put the centre column upside down into the tank? The flat part should be on the bottom.
    Sorry to quote myself, but can anybody confirm this please?

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    I always put the flat part on the bottom. But does it really matter? I don't know.
    "If it can be written or thought, it can be filmed." - Stanley Kubrick

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    yes the column is put in upside down. The Patterson reel has a little stem that will insert into that column and let you spin the reels back and forth instead of rotating the whole tank. Also did you guys catch where he was talking about the film and said 'don't try this at your sister's wedding, use your trusty digital camera', what about your more trusty film camera? Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cscurrier View Post
    I always put the flat part on the bottom. But does it really matter? I don't know.
    Ye4s, it does matter. It provides a space underneath the film which allows the developer/fixer to move around when you invert the tank for agitation.

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    Awesome. Good to know, Peltigera. Thank you.
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    D23 is easier and smells better

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobD View Post
    D23 is easier and smells better
    but bobD
    if you don't have any metol, or sodium sulfite ...
    and just instant coffee ... its impossible to use d23 ...


    caffenol is made from stuff you may have lying around your
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    1. I don't have any instant coffee, powdered Vitamin C or washing soda in my house. I could go to a supermarket and buy them.

    2. If I didn't have any sulfite or metol around the house I could order them online and have them delivered to my door.

    Crunching numbers for the above two choices results in:

    1. Getting dressed, going out to my car, driving to market, finding instant coffee, powdered C (if they have any) and washing soda. Getting in line and then paying for it and drving home.

    VS

    2. Ordering sulfite and metol online, waiting for it it arrive, opening front door and picking up the chems.

    Sorry, but D23 still wins as easier. And it still smells better too.

    Now, if I already had instant coffee, powdered vitamin C and washing soda in my house it's true that I could simply use them but only because the effort expended to obtain these ingredients was already expended so it really can't be claimed to be less effort to obtain them.

    And, I suppose one could order instant coffee, powdered vitamin C and washing soda online too which might seem to even out the effort except that lifting them would require more effort than lifting the sulfite and metol, not to mention the greater shipping costs involved with the grocery store ingredients.

    So D23 still wins.
    Last edited by BobD; 04-23-2012 at 11:37 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobD View Post
    Sorry, but D23 still wins as easier. And it still smells better too.
    But not as fun! ;-). Coffee? Vitamin C? Neato! But after the smell the fun is gone fast....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    But not as fun! ;-). Coffee? Vitamin C? Neato! But after the smell the fun is gone fast....
    We who mix our own have plenty of fun mixing "real" photo chems from scratch. So, I think you mean "cool" rather than "fun."

    And, "cool" is what also gives us things like Lady Gaga and plastic cameras with crappy lenses that cost $150 and sell like hotcakes to people who think they are "cool."

    So, what I'm trying to say is, you're right. Mixing up caffenol may well be more "cool" than mixing D23, but it's not easier nor more fun.

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