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    warm tone developer for Ilford MG Art300

    Hello, everyone. This is my first time to write on APUG.
    And I have questions about MG Art300 b/w paper.


    I've just got couple of boxes of Ilford MG Art300 few month ago.
    There is a plan to use them a month later.
    Many photographers seem to be favourably impressed by the texture of it.
    But I'm wondering at the tone of it,
    some men say "beautiful warm tone" , another men say
    "it is quite neutral although I used warm tone developer".
    It must be differences among individuals.
    Though I absolutely like worm tone.
    Do you have any information of develpers to make it warm tone?
    Or do you think that Dektol developer(Almost same as D-72)
    which was added few potassium bromide make it warm enough?
    I am keen to know them. Thank you.

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    I use dektol with this paper with a slight sepia tone and really like it ... this is so subjective you need to try it yourself and see with you own eyeballs.

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    The tone varies even with a warm tone developer depending on the exposure & development time, the shorter the dev time the warmer the image, and vice versa.

    So someone might dev for 3 minutes in the same developer that I use for 45 seconds and the image colour/tone would be much cooler at 3 mins. Temperature has an effect as well.

    I use Id-78 which is just an earlier Ilford warm tone developer (once sold in powder form) than their current Warmtone developer. Dektol with an extra 2 gms per/litre Bromide won't be far behind.

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    Hi,bob
    thank you for your respons.
    You use Dektol and it makes it sepia,
    did you add any chemical or much water?
    im keen to print but it's not possible right now

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    Hi Ian.
    thank you for your answer and precious information!
    uhmmm. I decided to use Dektol with bromide at first.
    it is quite easy to make it
    of course I am keen to try Id-78
    I will tell you my impression after I try them.
    Thank you

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    I use the fotospeed wt10 warm tone developer at the 1/19 dilution for all warm tone papers. both rc and fb, should work well with the mg art papers, although I have not used it yet. develop for between 3 and 4 minutes.
    Richard

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    No the developer Dektol give me a nice neutral looking print with this paper
    I then use a bleach and tone method to warm up the print. followed by a strong selenium quick inversion about 10 seconds
    This turns the image a bit coppery which I find very nice.

    So you develop as normal,,, fix wash ..

    then you tone to change the warmth of the print.
    Quote Originally Posted by I.Hiroki View Post
    Hi,bob
    thank you for your respons.
    You use Dektol and it makes it sepia,
    did you add any chemical or much water?
    im keen to print but it's not possible right now

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    I have used Ilford MG developer with great results. When I desire a slightly warmer tone I use Moersch Sepia Developer. I like the color of the paper as is, and hence I tone for permanence without a conscious effort to change the color of either the image or the paper. As Bob and Ian have inferred, use the paper with developer and toners so as to achieve the results that you desire. No way to know what various combinations will "achieve" until you do "your own thing" with your own negatives. Goggle the article on Multigrade Art 300 that was written recently by Dr. Tim Rudman. Lots of information about toning, color, etc., etc.

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    Hi Richard.
    It sounds nice
    maybe it's not easy to get it im my county, I reckon.
    i may buy it through B&H.
    thank you for your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by R.Gould View Post
    I use the fotospeed wt10 warm tone developer at the 1/19 dilution for all warm tone papers. both rc and fb, should work well with the mg art papers, although I have not used it yet. develop for between 3 and 4 minutes.
    Richard

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    Hi Bob.
    i get it. you do bleach and tone. it must be beautiful.
    but also it sounds complicated and difficult.
    I'll try it one day after I make beautiful normal print.
    thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Carnie View Post
    No the developer Dektol give me a nice neutral looking print with this paper
    I then use a bleach and tone method to warm up the print. followed by a strong selenium quick inversion about 10 seconds
    This turns the image a bit coppery which I find very nice.

    So you develop as normal,,, fix wash ..

    then you tone to change the warmth of the print.

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