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    Delta 400 -- Rodinal or HC110?

    I have a 100-foot roll of Delta 400. I have shot 2 rolls so far in HC110-B. So far they seem to be just OK; not amazingly sharp, good tones but not striking, not very fine grained. I think I may be doing something wrong, or this developer just doesn't work well with Delta 400.

    Acros does very well in HC110 and Rodinal, so I keep these 2 developers. Does anyone have any hints with using Delta 400 with either of these developers? I also have a 100-foot roll of Kentmere 400, and that film does well in HC110 (OK in Rodinal too). I don't use D-76/ID-11 as I always threw away a quarter gallon (I suppose that would be a quart) every 6 months since I don't use it fast enough.

    I've shied away from using Rodinal with it as I have heard horror stories elsewhere on the internet about Rodinal and Delta 400. But if others on APUG have had good success with it, I'd love to hear about it. Thanks!

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    I used to push Tri-X to 1600 or 3200 in Rodinal 1:25.

    Delta 400 in it at 1:50 is not grainy.
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    The last I shot Delta I used Microdol X 1:3 with good results, I think I would stay away from Rodinal and use HC 110 or DDX.

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    Acros is inherently quite a bit finer grained than Delta 400 (it is also finer grained than Delta 100) so I wouldn't compare the two. If you find it too grainy in HC110 forget about Rodinal, although it will be slightly sharper. With more dilute HC110 sharpness (and graininess) will increase a little. Regarding tonality both HC110 and Delta 400 are flexible anough that with practice and experimentation you should be able to get whatever tonality you want. For finer grain with tabular grained films such as Delta, XTOL works well.

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    It isn't that I want the film to be grainless, I just expected more from it. I'm going to shoot more and try Rodinal as well. Won't know unless I try.

    The first roll with HC-110 was bad. The second was better. I'll keep trying. Hopefully by the end of this 100-foot roll I will have a good combination to keep using.

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    It seems to me that with the new technology tabular films, if they even call them that anymore, it would probably be smarter to get a different developer then what you have, not that they won't work in some way. I always knew Rodinal as a middle of the road developer good with the older emulsions and HC110 as a solvent developer. With Delta 400 you don't really need a solvent developer. I've shot alot of Delta and always had sharp negs out of Xtol and FX2. Xtol is considered solvent but gives sharp grain and FX2 is definitively not solvent.. Since Xtol comes in 5 liters it may be too much to deal with so maybe consider one of the Ilford developers which someone else can comment on.
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    If you really want to play with D-76 some more, mix it from scratch instead. That way you won't have to throw any away; you'll only make what you want.

    I find Rodinal really shows the grain on smaller format films, so I tend to avoid it on films >ISO 100. For larger formats it probably doesn't much matter.

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    I have access to D-76 at a communal darkroom at the local art gallery (obviously I can't take any home, but I can take my film there to process). I don't need to buy it as long as I remain an active member there. I will try it in D-76 soon. Benefit of this is I can make contact prints of the film as soon as I process it. I am open to trying Xtol, but sometime later.

    In the meantime, I'll keep testing it with HC110 and Rodinal. Hopefully I can get one of those to give me decent results, or I will spend more time at the art gallery than I anticipated.

    Thanks for the input!

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    I might suggest that HC-110 is convenient, but has lower performance in the accutance/sharpness/speed arena.

    One might try, as previously mentioned, D-76, X-tol.

    While I like Rodinal I don't use it much and like it for other reasons than luminance and sharpness.
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    The best results are with Ilfotec DD-X
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