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    Quote Originally Posted by mexipike View Post
    Good point, and that's kind of my thoughts. I'm still going to put it in a wine bladder to be safe and I feel like drinking 5 liters of wine. You can usually smell mayonaise and tell if it's bad but Xtol just goes bad with no indication. Though simple film strip tests can help check for it.

    So I guess the point is you're right, Xtol's no big deal and I just ordered some.

    Anyone else have any comments on 1600 with xtol or other developers?


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    the xtol sudden death thing you are talking about
    happened a long time ago, not really something that happens currently.
    it happened with some of the 1L packets of developer, AND because it used to be
    recommended that xtol be used in a variety of very dilute ways ...
    when used very dilute the developing agent got used up, and the developer died
    when used as it is currently recommended, it doesn't die.
    i haven't used xtol in a long time, i never liked it and at the time it seemed like
    it underprocessed all my film no matter how much i over developed it ...
    looking back at my old film it didn't really do that bad of a job ...

    if you can get your hands on sprint film developer ...
    i would use that ... it is easy to use, lasts a pretty long time and works great ...

    if you want to do something out of the ordinary ...
    contact the photographer's formulary, and get some ansco 130 ( pf130 )
    dilute it 1:10 and process your film in it for 8.5mins at 72º,
    you might have to tweek the development time to fit your needs ...
    people also dilute dektol 1:7 /7mins for normal development, you will have to tweek it
    to get a workable time for your 2stops push ...

    you could always mix a batch of caffenol c ... it is a great, and often times overlooked but works better
    than most every developer i have used since i started processing film in 1981
    http://caffenol.blogspot.com/

    i add about 15cc of ansco 130/1L into it, and stand develop my film ( even 10year old drawer stored tmz )
    for 30mins and get great results ... you might have to agitate in your 30mins
    since you are pushing your film, again, you will have to test + tweek ...

    i don't use anything but coffee+130 for my own-stuff and it has been my developer of choice for close to 6years.
    i roast my own coffee beans ( robusta not arabica ) and currently use them 50/50 with green robusta beans
    ( i just make a pot of coffee ) ... i eyeball measure my other ingredients ( washing soda and vit c ) ...
    20 cups of coffee lasts 3-6 months and for 150-200 rolls/sheets of film or prints without replenishment
    --- it works out to about 4¢/development ...

    good luck !
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    I may have to give caffenol a try. Does anyone have any experience using it as a push developer. I ordered some xtol from freestyle and just received it this morning so I'm going to give it a shot first. Anyone have any secrets they like with xtol and trix at 1600?

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    Chris,

    Nice blog and website -- you've much to be proud of!

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    Anyone used Tri-x at 1600 with DDX?

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    I have used TriX and HPT at 1600 in DDX, but found that I get better shadows with TM3200 rated at 1200 in DDX or TMX developer. Other option is Tri X in Dianfile at 1200 or 1600.

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    I found DDX to be pretty similar to Xtol in regard to sharpness and shadow detail. It does work out more expensive per roll though (if that's a concern to you), but—as it's a liquid—more convenient if you're not using it frequently.

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    i just souped two rolls in Xtol. we'll see how they come out

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael stevens View Post
    I found DDX to be pretty similar to Xtol in regard to sharpness and shadow detail. It does work out more expensive per roll though (if that's a concern to you), but—as it's a liquid—more convenient if you're not using it frequently.
    DD-X and Xtol are quite different tonality wise, so they compliment each other nicely in high and low contrast illumination. You can overcome the higher highlight contrast by slowing agitation (using DD-X) but it does have a bit more intense highlights than Xtol. Both are truly excellent products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mexipike View Post
    i just souped two rolls in Xtol. we'll see how they come out
    Excited to hear your results!
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    Hello,

    Given that i have rated 1600 for tri-x and want to develop in D-76, Which dilution should i use to obtain the best shadow details among 1+1; 1+3 and STOCK?

    Thanks for your advice!
    Regards,
    Trung
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