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    Kodak 125 Plus X Best B&W Film All Time

    I was distracted with other things and missed the cancellation of Kodak 125 Plus X in 120 format. Serious Bummer.

    What I liked best about Kodak 125 Plus X is the subtle gradations from the midtones to the blacks. It's a film with "meat" - a "colorful" black and white film, for those who know what I mean. Good prints from Pyro or regular developers.

    So what film currently available in 120 is most similar to Kodak 125 Plus X in terms of midtones to the blacks tonal reproduction?

    For those who might reply, "Ilford FP4+" - I agree FP4+ is a really good film, but no.
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    Yes, FP4+.

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    I've moved (from Plus-X, which I LOVED) to Fuji's Neopan 100 (let's see how long that lasts), and I like the results, but I think it's a bit punchier, contrast-wise than Plus-X...

    It's inexpensive too, but only if you order from the US - in Japan (I discovered last month), it's not much cheaper than any other 120 film!

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    Quote Originally Posted by munz6869 View Post
    I've moved (from Plus-X, which I LOVED) to Fuji's Neopan 100 (let's see how long that lasts), and I like the results, but I think it's a bit punchier, contrast-wise than Plus-X...

    It's inexpensive too, but only if you order from the US - in Japan (I discovered last month), it's not much cheaper than any other 120 film!

    Marc!
    I figure you mean Acros? Great film, I love it but absolutely nothing like Plus-X. Shanghai GP3 is rumored to be based on the Plus-X formula if actually not Plus-X itself from back when Kodak cooperated with film production in China. I use it a lot having securely a load of it in my travels to see my wife's family there. However I've heard it too might not be around much longer either. Otherwise while not quite the same FP-4 is a wonderful film.
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    I never used Plus-X all that much. I used Pan-X outdoors or Tri-X in low light. When Kodak discontinued Pan-X I switched to Ilford Pan-F. Plus-X always seemed to be a "jack of all trades, master of none" film, either too fast or too slow for the subjects I was filming.
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    Foma 100... Can't say why except that it has serious character and enough "meet". I loved Plus-X and I love Foma 100 probably for the same reasons.

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    The general consesnsus here in the UK was always that FP4 was a much better film than Plus X, that was my own experience as well.

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    I agree, still shoot fp4 in all formats.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    The general consesnsus here in the UK was always that FP4 was a much better film than Plus X, that was my own experience as well.

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    Nothing else is like Plus-X.

    Substitutions, sure, but no replacements.
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    FP4+ is the closest in terms of gradation and image characteristics, although in my experience it is slightly better than Plus-X on all counts. It is every bit as "colorful" a B&W film as Plus-X, works with every developer out there, and stains beautifully in Pyro. Gradation from shadows through midtones, and the rest of the scale for that matter, is second to none.

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