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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie
    rogueish please post the info here. I also picked up a old book from the turn of last century on how to make your own negatives with lots of good info. I need to post some of those recipes.
    Sorry thought this book had glass plate process in it . It does not , but, as requested...
    Primitive Photography
    A Guide to Making Cameras,Lenses,and Calotypes
    Alan Greens Focal Press www.focalpress.com
    ISBN 0-240-80461-9
    here in Canada it was "special order" but in the US it may be more available.
    Table of Contents (short version)
    1 The Film holder pages 1-34
    2 The Camera body pages 37-76
    3 The Lens pages 81-131
    4 Calotype Paper Negatives pages 139-170 lists both wet paper process and dry waxed paper process.
    5 Salt Prints by Development pages 181-203
    includes source of suppliers (appears to be all U.S. based) and a 3 paged bibliography.
    Let me know if you need more.
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    John,

    My vote goes for 4x5, 3x4 or most importantly 9x12. I have plate holders and cameras to shoot them with in all three sizes. I wish I had a 5x7 but that's going to wait till I hit the lottery. As far as quantity, probably 25 to 50 a year.

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    john -

    would the plates you would import be an ortho or pan emulsion?

    - john

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    If you look at Kodak Publication F4016 that was updated February 2004, http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...16/f4016.jhtml
    you will notice that Kodak still manufactures these plates. It's midnight right know so I can't call my Kodak rep to get the specifics, but I will tomorrow. It might have to come from a Kodak Graphic Arts dealer, this stuff is used in scientific applications, but who knows it might be a special order. The name of the film is Kodak T-Max 100 Professional Plate.

    I have a Kodak product catalog that lists U.S. only catalog numbers.

    4x5 36 plates per package, 0.040 thickness Cat no. 161 6101
    4x5 36 plates per package, 0.060 thickness Cat no. 825 9160
    5x7 12 plates per package, 0.040 thickness Cat no. 812 4307
    8x10 12 plates per package, 0.040 thickness Cat no. 829 1387
    8x10 12 plates per package, 0.060 thickness Cat no. 837 8135
    14x14 12 plates per package, 0.040 thickness Cat no. 826 7023

    6.5cm x 9cm 36 plates per package, 0.060 thickness Cat no. 183 4258
    9cm x 12cm 36 plates per package, 0.040 thickness Cat no. 804 6856
    9cm x 12cm 36 plates per package, 0.060 thickness Cat no. 814 5179

    Good Luck Greg Landrum

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian
    john -

    would the plates you would import be an ortho or pan emulsion?

    - john
    The plates are panchromatic.

    I just got a quote from Slavich. They are willing to make sizes other than 4x5 and 5x7, 9x12, 13x18 etc are all possible. In small quantities they quoted 4x5 25 to a box at 180 Euro's ($235) plus shipping from Russia. 5x7 is over 300 Euros ($390). Smaller size boxes are possible but this gives the price per plate.

    This is my cost for these. In quantity the price goes down a bit. So the next question, is anyone willing to pay these kind of prices for plates?

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    I was afraid of that. At $15 an exposure for 5x7" I can be shooting 11x14" color. That's also about the price of 8x10" Polaroid. Shipping from Russia can't be cheap either. I was in for quite a surprise when I'd bought about $300 worth of books on my last trip to Poland, and it cost me about $100 to ship most of them back to the U.S.

    That said, I'd probably split a box of 4x5" or 5x7" at least for a trial with someone if they were available.
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    I'll pass and use liquid light if I need to.
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    thanks john!

    i think i'll keep doing what i am doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandc
    The plates are panchromatic.

    I just got a quote from Slavich. They are willing to make sizes other than 4x5 and 5x7, 9x12, 13x18 etc are all possible. In small quantities they quoted 4x5 25 to a box at 180 Euro's ($235) plus shipping from Russia. 5x7 is over 300 Euros ($390). Smaller size boxes are possible but this gives the price per plate.

    This is my cost for these. In quantity the price goes down a bit. So the next question, is anyone willing to pay these kind of prices for plates?
    I'd make them for that price, although it's 18 years since I last made photographic emulsions, I think I'd prefer to buy cut film and adapt for the slight shift in focus, rather than use glass, and also know I was using the best film technology available.

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    Here is Slavich's USA distributor for holography supplies.

    http://www.geola.com/holomaterials_usa_eshop.htm

    and here's another distributor--

    http://www.laserreflections.com/film.html

    Would the 4x5" panchromatic plates be the same as 102mm x 127mm PFG-03C Plates for $220? They also come in blue-green sensitive, which may be just an ordinary orthochromatic emulsion.

    Still costly, but if the materials are the same, maybe it's better just to order them from someplace that is already selling them in quantity, or alternately, maybe this is another market that J&C might consider expanding into--holography supplies.

    I know plates were used in Russia for serious photography until surprisingly recently (like the 1950s or maybe even later), but it's hard to believe that they could survive making plates for pictorial photography in the post-Soviet era.
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