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    Please help me identifying this film

    Hi,

    this morning I bought a Zeiss-Ikon Nettar 515 at a local flea market. It still had a film inside.
    Now I'm curious and want to develop the film to see what pictures (if any) are on it.

    Does anyone recognize this film and can give some development time number?

    Advancing the film (it was already at the 2nd last frame) gave a feeling like it had been sitting in the
    camera for the last 30 years, if not longer. So it's probably expired since a very log time.


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    Russian or USSR colour negative film DS-4. Good luck developing it!

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    The sticker states that it is a negative film and also exposed so there may be some recoverable images. Suggest developing it as a BW film.
    A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.

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    This film Svema DS-4 manufactured from the 50's until 90's , very much like its German counterpart Orwocolor is based on the old Agfacolor material. It is not compatible with the C-41 process. You could try to get hold of some Orwocolor chemistry to develop it properly. If you develop it in c-41 chemistry the colors will be off, lights will yield a yellow tint, shadows a blue tint, contrast will be high. If you develop yourself you might want to take the temperature down a bit to not risk melting off the gelatine layer. All this is based on my friends' experiences who came across a few rolls of the same film last year. A quick search in terms of development times and temps yielded the following (Orwo guidelines)

    Verarbeitung von ORWOCOLOR-Negativ-Film NC 19
    Verarbeitungsgang nach der ORWO-Vorschrift 5168 K / Entwicklungssatz C 5168

    Vorgang Bad Zeit Bad-Temperatur
    (Teilpackung) (min) (°C)
    Farbentwickeln Farbentwickler 11 20 +- 1/4
    Wässern -- 1/2 12...15
    Stoppen Stoppbad 2 19...21
    Wässern -- 5 12...15
    Bleichen Bleichbad 5 19...21
    Wässern -- 5 12...15
    Fixieren Fixierbad 5 19...21
    Wässern -- 15 12...15
    Benetzen F 905 (1 + 200) 1/2 19...21
    Trocknen -- -- max. 40

    Bis einschließlich Stoppen == Dunkelheit der Verarbeitung.

    Good luck, and show us some results when you're done !

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    With color film this old you're not going to get anything resembling a useable color image. Better to get something by developing it as BW.
    A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.

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    Thanks for the answers.

    I'll probably process it b/w, unless someone else could do it for me in color. rhcgn, how did the film your friend developed come out? Would he develop it for me?

    If I do it b/w what would be a good development time?

    Hmm, maybe I'll try to get some rolls of this film and do some tests before developing this unknow roll.

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    You might want to contact Gene M, a frequent poster on the Classic Manual Cameras forum of Photo.net. His web site is http://www.westfordcomp.com/holga/index.html. I've never seen Gene post on Photo.net about this type of film in particular, nor about color films in general, but he is the acknowledged intergalactic master of found-film handling. If anyone might have a clue, he would.
    --Dave



 

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