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    Xtol discontinued?

    Xtol appears to be out of stock everywhere, and B&H is listing it as "discontinued."

    I queried B&H by email and got a reply that, "Our buyer says he doesn’t expect to see Kodak brand Xtol ever again." Now, whether this means that there will be Champion brand Xtol or something else, that is completely unclear. Kodak sold off their photochemistry division to Champion some years ago, so the Kodak labeled Xtol hasn't actually been made by Kodak for quite some time. You would think that would also mean it would be unaffected by the bankruptcy.

    Unknown to me (until today) was the fact that Freestyle distributes an Xtol clone under the LegacyPro brand (formerly Kentmere I believe).

    I just ordered 5 packages to be sure I'm covered in the short term at least.

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    Freestyle's website says that a new delivery is expected around Sept 14 (in two days). Here's the link:
    http://freestylephoto.biz/8751752-Ko...o-Make-5-Liter

    Mark Overton

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolfe Tessem View Post
    Xtol appears to be out of stock everywhere, and B&H is listing it as "discontinued."

    I queried B&H by email and got a reply that, "Our buyer says he doesn’t expect to see Kodak brand Xtol ever again." Now, whether this means that there will be Champion brand Xtol or something else, that is completely unclear. Kodak sold off their photochemistry division to Champion some years ago, so the Kodak labeled Xtol hasn't actually been made by Kodak for quite some time. You would think that would also mean it would be unaffected by the bankruptcy.

    Unknown to me (until today) was the fact that Freestyle distributes an Xtol clone under the LegacyPro brand (formerly Kentmere I believe).

    I just ordered 5 packages to be sure I'm covered in the short term at least.

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    Whew... Man it would suck if xtol was gone. It's one of my main developers.

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    I have heard that Ilford has an xtol equivalent. Might be microdol or perceptol.

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    Microphen is what I'm thinking about for an Xtol equivalent.

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    Of course it's discontinued! I started using it, that's why!

    Sometimes, the laws of causality make me wonder
    And the sign said, "long haired freaky people need not apply"

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    There's already a thread on this under Product Availability:

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum172/...ying-xtol.html

    Ilford DD-X is often suggested as an alternative but is probably more like T-Max developer than Xtol. There are other developers on the market that claim to be very similar, see the above thread. MSDSs may look different but that doesn't necessarily mean they will (or won't) work very differently. The Xtol formula, at least the approximate formula, is hardly a secret, see the bottom of this page:

    http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/xtol/

    For a scratch mixed developer said to produce negatives indistinguishable from Xtol:

    http://www.jackspcs.com/mytol.htm

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    I believe Fomadon Excel is similar to Xtol. This is at least what one can read on the internet...

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    Fomadon Excel is listed as an ascorbic acid developer so it is probably at least similar (and more likely closer than just similar) but as far as I see from a couple of sources checked is only available in 1 liter packs for $6. Not that outrageous but way more than people have been paying per liter for the Kodak 5L packs.

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