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    HP5 or FP4 in Pyrocat HD - help me decide

    So, I'm currently using HP5 happily, but have decided to move to using Pyrocat HD. Since I'll be retesting my film speeds and development times anyway, now is a good opportunity to consider a different film.

    I was thinking of moving to FP4 for three reasons:
    I've heard great things about it.
    It's less grainy in 35mm, which I have started shooting again after a long hiatus.
    It's an Ilford product, and I'm sticking with Ilford.

    Looks like most people are shooting FP4 at 64-100, and shooting HP5 at 200. So, making the switch would mean losing at least 1 stop.


    Some details on my configuration:
    Shooting 35mm, 120 and 4x5
    Developing in Pyrocat HD
    Printing on Ilford Warmtone in Ansco 130, through an Ilford 500 multigrade head


    So, I know this is a very subjective question, but would you switch from HP5 to FP4?
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    I use both in PHD and love them both. My choice of film speed depends on what my subject is but they are both great films. And I don't really stick to one over the other. I'd say give it a go and see how you like it. I shoot FP4 at 100 and it works great in PHD with gorgeous tones.
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    Jeff,
    I've probably shot more FP4+ than any other film. I've developed it in Pyrocat HD and more recently Rodinal. It's flexible yet not too particular... FP4+ has pretty big grain for a slow film, smaller than HP5+ though.

    Generally I'd say FP4+ expands better while HP5+ contracts better, though I've done both satisfactorily with each film.

    Honestly, Jeff, I would say it comes down to film speed. 50 vs 200 in my experience. Depending on how and what you photograph either one could be an advantage.

    Good luck! Sorry I missed you this weekend. I had work and house warming party...

    Shawn

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    I have no experience with HP5+ in Pyrocat, but FP4+ in Pyrocat was a staple for a couple of years, and the results were phenomenal. I always thought that FP4+ was a lot more like Tri-X 400 in its final print appearance than HP5+. HP5+ is a bit lower in contrast, I would say, so I tend to give HP5+ somewhere between 400 to 800 exposure (it is really fast for a 400 speed film, actually), and FP4+ EI 100. The way I shoot I'd be losing two stops going to FP4+, so fast lenses is definitely a plus.
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    HP5 or FP4 in Pyrocat HD - help me decide

    If you're going to insist on one film then I'd say HP5+, I've been experimenting with it even at 800 in Rodinal and find it quite nice so believe it to have more flexibility and use. I like FP4+ a lot too but do find it a bit grainy for the speed but do not mind that so much, I'm getting a different look and use it too for that.

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    So, I guess you're all saying that I should keep both films then?
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    I rate my hp5+ at 320 in Pyrocat. This is for 35mm only. For 120 I use PanF @50. Is there a reason for you to standardize on a single film across formats?

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    HP5 or FP4 in Pyrocat HD - help me decide

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bannow View Post
    So, I guess you're all saying that I should keep both films then?
    Well, nothing at all wrong with saying you want to stick to one film so as to take that out of the equation across the board. It's limiting yourself somewhat but has its positives too of course particularly if it will improve your personal workflow to an extent that you feel it will better suit your style and your results. Otherwise? Yes, use both!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bannow View Post
    So, I guess you're all saying that I should keep both films then?
    Not necessarily. The question you need to ask yourself is: Will my pictures be any more important because I switch to FP4+?
    I think we get lost in technical aspects that, in the end, mean very little in the grand scheme of things.
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    Jeff: FP4 is my film of choice, mostly because it is slower and presumably finer grained. I've never done a side by side comparison so can't say for sure. Occasionally if I need a faster film, a little smoother, for portraits, I'll reach for HP5.

    I have also switched from Pyrocat to Jay DeFehr's Obsidian Aqua. It is easier to mix, has fewer ingredients, works faster, and produces, to my eye, equal results.


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