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    T-MAX P3200 (TMZ) discontinued


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    That doesn't surprise me one little bit. I have never used the film and I expect the majority of other APUG members haven't either. If it is a loser for them, so be it, so long as the 100 and 400 versions are still around.

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    Shame, I used it a bit a few years back and liked the grit. I was thinking about TMZ now that Neo 1600 is dead but now that it's dead too that leaves just Delta 3200.
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    I guess I wasn't stupid for buying 200 rolls three months ago. I often prefer it to Tri-X, shot @ 640-800 and developed in TMAX or Rodinal. Great stuff, and another sad Kodak day. My money is on TMX to kick the bucket next. I just can't see how that emulsion survives with digital eating its lunch, and especially with everything that is wrong at Kodak. I suggest to keep supporting Tri-X because THAT will be the real heartbreaker.
    Last edited by MaximusM3; 10-02-2012 at 05:39 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Auch!

    I've just developed a love for the p3200 and was about to purchase a cpl of bricks, so I should just quit that idea and go get some delta instead then, sad, I really like p3200!
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    Me, too. Very late to the film party, alas.

    I went on a shopping spree here in Seoul today and now probably possess over half the unexposed supply of TMZ in South Korea. I wonder if the military would lease me space in one of those deep underground North Korean tunnels they discovered, for personal storage?

    Meanwhile somewhere there's a Kodak salt mine custodian out of a job . . .

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    ..and I should add, that Kodak's statement for TMY as a "replacement", mentioning a "very significant grain penalty" with TMZ, is just silly. TMZ @ 800-1600 has a VERY different look than TMY, and grain is really about the same, when properly exposed and processed. The emulsion has its own distinctive look, and it always reminded me a bit of old Tri-X. They maybe don't understand that is not simply about speed or low light situations, but about the unique look, grain structure, of each emulsion. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. PlusX was unique and beautiful too..people don't buy it, don't use it, and it goes ...just like many before.

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    My Ultimate film. I love P3200. This is SADDD!!!

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    Two threads now with more to follow?. A merge might be sensible, mods

    pentaxuser

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    I certainly used it.

    I didn't do as many seem to and shoot it at 640-1000 though. For 1000-1250 I prefer Tri-X in Diafine (to be fair though I've never even tried TMZ below 1600.) I shoot it routinely at 3200, develop in T-Max developer per the instructions for 6400, with great results. Sure it's a little contrasty but the shadow detail is adequate. Grain is obvious but reasonable and pleasing in many shots.

    However, I like Delta 3200 nearly as well. I shoot it in 120 where the grain is less noticeable and get lovely results. I've been sticking with TMZ in 35mm because it seems slightly finer grained and perhaps a touch faster, or at least able to get more speed. I can get an usable 6400 from TMZ if needed. I've never tried that with Delta 3200 and I'm a little skeptical of getting good results.

    But for other TMZ users, don't hesitate to try Delta 3200. It's a great film, and also available in 120 so you (and I now) can standardize on one film for high speed if you shoot both sizes.

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