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    Stereotypes are senseless. You can spend a lifetime learning to print either color or black and white,
    or learn the basics of either in half an hour. But for some reason the average high school tuba player
    is not welcome in a coat n' tails symphony orchestra, regardless of whether the performace is broadcast in color TV or black and white. Maybe if some of you were exposed to really high quality
    serious color prints more often instead of moth-on-windshield web smudges you'd understand the
    difference. But this does not mean color printing needs to be intimidating to a beginner. You can do
    basic RA4 in an inexpensive drum, and regular RA4 paper is more economical than those blank pieces
    of paper that get sold to the inkjet users. Just remember to be cautious with the chemicals, have
    good ventilation, and know how to properly control temperature. Printing from chromes (slides) is
    getting tougher in the darkroom, and has always been more complicated if you wanted good results.
    So it's easier to learn color printing by shooting color negative film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSun View Post
    The other thing comes to mind is that, BW photography is considered ART and color photography is mainstream and less of an ART. This has nothing to do with photography, but just with the concept of their popularity.

    If today I shoot with a TLR, others would think I'm an artist since I use an old and strange camera. But TLR cameras were so popular in the old days and they are hardly considered artists' tools.

    Actually by now almost all film photography should be considered ART since the mainstream has already moved on to digital....

    what a-r-e y-o-u talking about?

    Cant anything mainstream be art? and in any case what does this have to do with anything? Gombrich dident think photography was art, but luckily for us steichen did.

    Perhaps you are confusing the word art with craft. Is there anything that is not art?
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    The other thing that makes BW somehow popular is that, all the intro photography classes teach BW photography with some go some depth. Often time color photography is not really taught. For example, my local high school recently closed down its color darkroom and sold all the equipment, including the darkroom furniture. But they kept the BW darkroom since they still teach BW photography as part of the class. I just do not know how long they are going to keep up the BW darkroom.

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    Suzanne is right isn't she? Most who shoot colour scan and we don't talk about that. I wonder how many colour printers there are here. 50?
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    I have enough trouble trying to get a black & white image correct and have a problem with coloured images. A black & white image can often convey a greater strength and meaning, as it draws more attention to tonal emphasis, contrast and composition. However, you have to have that black & white mind set to such an extent that even when I use colour I don’t bother to try and adjust to this medium, as I find this too difficult. Colour is just too complicated.

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

    Francis Bacon

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    Color is now nearly 100% digital. Try DPUG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 37th Exposure View Post
    Color is now nearly 100% digital. Try DPUG.
    Not here (my darkroom and apug) it isn't.
    Bob

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    AA said once that with color, he can only control it just so far, then it becomes obviously "unreal"----I hope I got the paraphrase correct.

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    troll, troll, troll....

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