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I personally dislike tabular grain technology, as laying tabular (unnatural grain shape in the first place) grain in one general direction is not natural and recording light on them even less so. Tri-X however is a real film. An organic of the film world to coin a phrase.
“The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”
Francis Bacon
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"...the heart and mind are the true lens of the camera".
- Yousuf Karsh
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit".
- Aristotle
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and don't forget, T-max has changed formulations as well, most recently TMY, but I recall there being somewhat of an unannounced or un-noticed change in the early mid-90's to TMY.
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 Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson
Which is which, Clive?
Nice one Thomas, my guess is the guy in the chair is Tri-X and the others are T-Max, but who can tell?
“The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”
Francis Bacon
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>Thomas Bertilsson:
> Which is which, Clive?
From a highly compressed low resolution jpeg?
The difference between the two isn't day and night, but it's there and noticeable at higher resolutions.
That said it's not a matter of one being better than the other. It's a matter of personal taste.
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 Originally Posted by Harry Lime
>Thomas Bertilsson:
> Which is which, Clive?
From a highly compressed low resolution jpeg?
The difference between the two isn't day and night, but it's there and noticeable at higher resolutions.
That said it's not a matter of one being better than the other. It's a matter of personal taste.
Well said Harry.
“The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”
Francis Bacon
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 Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson
Which is which, Clive?
Ok, my guess Thomas.......the two in the middle are traditional grain and the 1st and 4th are tabular grain, but I don't really know.
"The difference between a very good print and a fine print is quite subtle and difficult , if not impossible, to describe in words."
---AA ( The Print)
Flickr
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Yeah. If these are from 35mm, print them to 11x14 and it won't be too hard to tell by looking at the prints. At this size online, no way.
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 Originally Posted by CPorter
Ok, my guess Thomas.......the two in the middle are traditional grain and the 1st and 4th are tabular grain, but I don't really know.
My guess also.
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
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 Originally Posted by cliveh
I personally dislike tabular grain technology, as laying tabular (unnatural grain shape in the first place) grain in one general direction is not natural and recording light on them even less so. Tri-X however is a real film. An organic of the film world to coin a phrase.
What defines "natural" in film manufacturing? Strange word to use.
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
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