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    Developer for efke films

    Hello,

    I'm considering buying some efke film. I'm pondering what developer I should use with it. Currently I have only rodinal. The shop that sells efke here, has on stock Tetenal Neofin Blue developer. Which developer should I use from these two, or do you have any other recommendations (liquids please). I'd like to have quite small grain, because I shoot 35mm only. I will be probably shooting KB25 and KB100.

    General comments of this film and alternatives are also very welcome.

    Thanks

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    Either one will do. Neofin Blau was originally made for the ADOX films that are the direct forerunners of the EFKE films, and gives great results. I haven't tried Rodinal, but I do use Neofin.
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    While Ole is right, such a dev may be a wee bit sharper and grainer than you seek, depending upon format for the 100 speed - prob spot on for the 25. PL100 in 5x4 is not fine grained - grainier than FP4 I think. However, it is very pretty. I used HC110 for times I got off the Masive development chart and got moderate grain and a beautiful look. I have not used lots, but fell in love with it. I Have loads in the fridge and when I get up an ruinning again, will go for HC110, get this nailed down and then try something like Aculux 2 for finer grain. The grain structure in HC110 looks very sharp, so I bet even a solvent developer would still produce negs with decent 'bite', as is the case with HP5 etc. Being an oldie film, I bet you could dev it in pretty well anything and get a decent reult. Fracesco uses Pyrocat HD for Azo, with great results. I once used Dixactol, but got huge grain and massively high B+F and very long print times. I will try it this time with Pyrocat, but for enlargement printing, unlike Francesco. Std devs such as D76/IDll/HC110 are all likely to give great results, or rodinal/neofin for greater sharpness.

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    Largely thanks to a member here on APUG who shall remain nameless*, lately I have been sticking everything I can lay my hands on into a tank of Rodinal, shaking it around a bit and seeing what happens. Last night I did a roll of Efke R50. I haven't printed anything yet but the negs look encouraging with full speed and very nice contrast.

    *Dr. Morten Damkjær
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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    Neal,

    R50 and Rodinal 1+50 are a dream team. I am using it for 3 years now... yes, Efke films usually stick to the speed printed on the pack, they are actually a bit faster... somewhat unusual sensibilisation, wonderful tonality.

    My fav in 120 next to APX100 in "the miracle water".

    Jimi,

    use Rodinal or Neofin/Beutler with the KB25 and some "grain eater" with KB100 - the latter is not that nice, with visual grain, similar to FP4+. I´d recommend Calbe A49 for it.

    And be careful with handling, the emulsion is still quite soft. Omit the stop (use plain water instead), don´t use hardener, don´t wipe the film and all will be fine.
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    I'm just waiting until it gets dark enough to do a printing session. (In the Winter I don't hassle will putting up the window blockers). Can't wait to see how it prints.
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
    =Neal W.=

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    I dumped a couple of rolls of old KB14 in Rodinal 1+100 a while back and they looked and printed beautifully. So it's my choice when I get some of the new stuff.

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    Neil,

    it usually prints easily, I usually hit the g2-3 on the spot.

    Some time ago I switched to a 1min pre-wash (to get rid of the blue AHU-laquer), then dev for 480-720s depending on the contrast needed.

    Hey, even the undeveloped film is a beauty - a real nice, deep blue. ;-)
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    Jay I've not tried PC-TEA, but the Look Rodinal has with grain is one of the positives in my book which is another reason I love it so much

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    I agree, it´s the appearance of the grain that makes part of the R50 fun. I will never ever try it with another dev.
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