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    Kodak paper lamentation....

    I started printing in the early eighties in Paris then moved to the US in 2002.
    For 20 years I never printed on Kodak paper.
    Nobody I knew printed on Kodak either. All the printers gurus of the time were using Agfa or Ilford or Oriental.
    I was living next door to the main darkroom store in Paris, they NEVER had Kodak paper.
    Very few talked about Ektalure or Elite but I never knew where to find it anyway.

    Kodak was huge in France, Newspapers or even Kodak used to give me bricks and bricks of film for assignments or just to help.
    So.... Why ?
    Why they never advertised their range of paper over there ? This is something I will never understand.

    Such a pity. Because here I discovered the beauty, unique in many ways, of their long gone papers.
    Now I print on Opal, Ektalure, Medalist or Kodabromide. They are Amazing.

    Just yesterday I did some lith with 1959 Kodabromide that just went perfect.

    Why was it the best kept secret ? I can't understand.

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    Kodak has never been good at knowing what it's got when it's got it.
    www.EASmithV.com

    "The camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera."— Dorothea Lange
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    RIP Kodachrome

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    if george eastman were alive ... or someone with the same ENERGY that he had
    then they would have advertised the heck out of as many of their products as they had for sale.

    i often think if they advertised their films and papers in the 1980s+90s
    they probably wouldn't be selling off their technology portfolio to the lowest bidders...

    at least we can enjoy the stuff we find like searching the beach with a metal detector !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guillaume Zuili View Post

    Just yesterday I did some lith with 1959 Kodabromide that just went perfect.

    I am so jealous right now!

    KB and Medalist are my favourite papers of all time.
    - Ian

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    Paper from 1959 was still good?

    I have some Ektalure and Panalure in my freezer. I was never a fan of the Kodak papers I did use, but those were primarily the varieties of Polycontrast. Maybe I didn't work with them enough or try the right ones. I do miss Panalure as there's nothing like it, and I have lots of color negatives.

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    Yes 59 still good.
    Lith is perfect for fogged papers. The blacks, creamy middle tone, highlights and contrast I got were amazing.
    Also what strikes me is the quality of the surface, the weight of the paper.
    Not only KB. Opal and Ektalure are just Wow.

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    Just lith printed an image on Polycontrast RC from 1979.....the best highlights I've seen in my lith prints. The old paper can sometimes do amazing things. Now to try the Polycontrast I have from 1963.
    Your first 10,000 pictures are the worst - HCB

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    This is simply cadmium heaven Mark :-)

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    I discussed this 1:1 with Tony Perez. Oh well. what do you expect.

    PE

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    So what did he say?
    A politician is a man who will double cross that bridge when he comes to it.

    Oscar Levant

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