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    Commercial viability of platinum paper

    I have always loved the look of platinum prints but, as I use a rental darkroom in NYC, coating and drying papers has not been a practical option for me. I would imagine that I am not alone and I was wondering if there might be enough interest in commercially prepared platinum papers to make it worthwhile for a company,such as Ilford, to consider making such a product. It would seem that not only would this be of interest to large format photographers, but now that large negatives can be digitally generated, it might also be of interest to small and medium format users, as well as those who start with digital capture. If Simon Galley notices this post, perhaps Ilford could consider the possibility.
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    I can't imagine there would be enough demand for that. Besides that, I wouldn't want to use it if they did make it. I love platinum, but part of the attraction is the imperfection that makes each print unique. I would expect commercial paper to be as evenly coated as normal photo paper. Also, since you mix the emulsion based on the contrast required to make the print you want, I would expect there would have to be a wide range of papers that you would have to keep around, making it very expensive to do and harder for the companies to justify making.

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    Michael,

    You don't really need a darkroom to coat and dry platinum or palladium. It can be done under incandescent lighting since the sensitizing solution is activated with ultra-violet light. Drying can be done by air drying or a blow dryer. You would contact print with a printing frame and uv lightbox or for that matter the sun. Processing and washing in trays also under incandescent light such as a 40watt bulb. I use large format 4x5, enlarged negatives from that or mf on to x-ray duplicating film (that takes a darkroom) as well as digitally enlarged negatives from scanned film.

    Check with Bostick and Sullivan. They might still offer a starter kit to give it a try.

    http://www.jeffreyglasser.com/

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    jeffreyg, which transparencies do you use? I've never printed transparencies on inkjet before. I've had problems with the ink ever drying on some paper with my Epson 2200, so I'm a bit reluctant to jump right in and try without hearing from others so I can avoid buying something that may end up being useless. I shoot 4x5, but I'd like to do platinum prints as large as 11x14 if I can, though I can't afford a camera and film that big at the moment.

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    I use Pictorico OHP Transparency Film with an Epson 2200 set for matte paper. The film is available in different sizes so for the 2200 you could use 11x17 or 13x19. I use a PhotoShop plugin from Dan Burkholder that I tweak to make the negatives. If you do have a darkroom the duplicating film makes a really nice negative.

    http://www.jeffreyglasser.com/

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    If it were made I'd use it. I'd like the uniformity of a commercial Platinum paper. If Printing-Out Paper was once again commercailly made I'd use it too.

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    There used to be a beautiful pre coated platinum/palladium paper from the Palladio Co. I'm not sure why they stopped making it.
    While I agree that coating is half the fun it was a cool little paper. At the time I was adding varying amounts of hydrogen peroxide to the developer to change contrast.

    I believe POP paper is available at http://www.altphotoproducts.com/ although I haven't tried it. Yet...

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    See this thread about the demise of Palladio:

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum42/1...o-company.html
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
    Photography (not as up to date as the flickr site)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com/photo
    Academic (Slavic and Comparative Literature)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com

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    Thanks for the link David, now I do remember the occasional black spot. Great paper.

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    I do not recommend blow drying platinum paper at home (or anywhere, really). The platinum dust that flies off can cause a very nasty form of asthma. It took me 5 years of printing to develop asthma from it...I foolishly did not wear a simple cloth dust mask that would have prevented it (everyone will react differently to the dust, of course).

    If one has children in the home, this dust will be spread around the house.

    Air-dry with a fan (but not blasting on it) actually improved my prints, too (better control of moisture levels between prints). A light tight drying box can be made, but I just tack the wet paper on the wall.
    At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.

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