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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    I don't want to use XTOL at all though. I don't want to use any Kodak chems or film - strictly Ilford.

    I'll try it 1+9, until I can find something more suitable that's not Kodak.
    I'd suggest ID-11 then - which film are you using (to determine dilution)?

    I don't know why you won't consider Champion Photographic's chemistry.
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    How long can I keep my developer.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    I don't know why you won't consider Champion Photographic's chemistry.
    Strictly HP5+.

    And I never said I wouldn't consider another developer, I'm just not ready to venture into other stuff yet. I've been stuck on Kodak since high school, it's all I've ever worked with. And now I'm having to change my processes, albeit by personal decision. It's just easier for me and more comfortable for me to use a major player like Ilford right now.

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    A replenished developer works best if you are processing film on a regular basis. If your developing is sporatic then a one-shot developer might be best such as Kodak HC-110. The concentrate keeps for a long, long time. It's also quite cheap when you figure how many rolls you can do with a single bottle ai 1+31 and higher dilutions. Look at the following website for information on this developer. www.covingtoninnovations.com/hc110
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    What does a replenished do, anyways? And by that I mean chemically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    Strictly HP5+.

    And I never said I wouldn't consider another developer, I'm just not ready to venture into other stuff yet. I've been stuck on Kodak since high school, it's all I've ever worked with. And now I'm having to change my processes, albeit by personal decision. It's just easier for me and more comfortable for me to use a major player like Ilford right now.
    The chemistry that was formerly made and marketed by Kodak is now made (in North America) by Champion - who are a major player.

    Someone else may very well be marketing the Kodak stuff soon.

    And as for ID-11 dilution choices, Ilford's fact sheet lists times for using stock ID-11 (7.5 minutes), ID-11 diluted 1 + 1(13 minutes) and ID-11 diluted 1 + 3 (20 minutes)
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    How long can I keep my developer.

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    The chemistry that was formerly made and marketed by Kodak is now made (in North America) by Champion - who are a major player.

    Not major enough for me to readily find without a google search... And they aren't on the shelves in my local photo shop if I need them in a pinch one day.

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    I have used replenish XTOL for over two years without a problem.
    Warning!! Handling a Hasselblad can be harmful to your financial well being!

    Nothing beats a great piece of glass!

    I leave the digital work for the urologists and proctologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    Not major enough for me to readily find without a google search... And they aren't on the shelves in my local photo shop if I need them in a pinch one day.
    No, but they make much of the chemistry that the labs you use employ: http://www.championphotochemistry.com/about-us.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonic View Post
    What does a replenished do, anyways? And by that I mean chemically.
    A replenished developer system recycles most of the developer after use. An amount of either a specific replenisher or fresh developer is added to maintain the developer's strength. An example would be D-76 used with replenisher D-76R. It's economical but there is some change in the developers action after each replenishment cycle. People tend to either love the idea or hate it.
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    Before going to a replenishment regime I'd recommend first reading about it as discussed in detail by Kodak in this excellent publication (including how exactly to do it for a variety of developers including XTOL should you decide to go that way). Pros and cons are discussed. See pages 15-17 (this entire publication is an excellent reference though):

    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...Pubs/o3/o3.pdf

    Gerald's HC-110 suggestion is worthwhile considering.

    DDX is an excellent developer. It works fine at 1+9, but make sure you still have an adequate amount of concentrate in the working solution to develop the amount of film. Refer to Ilford's instructions - although they do not explicitly indicate the amount of concentrate required per area of film.

    In general, more developer is better, and skimping is not worth the potential price.

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