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    I tried to clean the matt surface with an acid solution, but it made no difference. It does not look like a deposit- more like pitting into the gelatin.

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    So are you going to send a sheet to Ilford?
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    yes, i mailed a sheet yesterday. Thanks for everyones input; it will be interesting to see what they say.

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    If you mailed us a sheet it will be tested ( hope you sent us the batch number from the box as well ):

    You will get one of three replies ( and a full written explanation )

    1 ) Justified : a problem exists with that sample

    2 ) Cause not certain : where we cannot identify the issue even after a full examination or cannot replicate* the sample

    ( *We keep samples of all the batches of film and paper we produce for up to 5 years, that way we can process 'the control' to see if we can replicate an issue )

    3 ) Not justified, essentially the product is fine, it has happened during or post exposure.


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    thank you Simon, for looking into this for me. Unfortunately, I did not include the batch number, but I feel it doesnt pertain to this particular matter, since the problem has repeatedly happened with different emulsion batches.

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    Simon - I may send you a sample of some 120 film, either FP4, or one of the Deltas. Mine always come out with some kind of non-glossy finish, not that it seems to bother anything.
    I'll wait till I shoot a roll that I still have the box for, and include it with the film.

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    Dear George,

    On the emulsion side of the film or on the other side?

    Is it an even surface tone or is it variable ?

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    I did send samples to Ilford and they looked at them under a microscope and it appeared to be a form of reticulation on the base side. They informed me that I should not presoak the film, which I was concerned about, but I went ahead and they were right, the problem went away. The base side now looks very shiny.

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    Cool, glad there was an answer.
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    Thanks for feeding back. It is nice to see the outcome of this type of query and good that Ilford were able to offer a practical solution.

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