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    FP4 and FP4+

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    llford reflect changes in the name something Kodak never did with Plus X, & Tri-X in 74/5 years.

    Films improve, it's what we want & need.

    Ian
    I hope they come out with PanF2 soon, that latent image failure issue bugs me, but PanF+ is my favorite film.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I hope they come out with PanF2 soon, that latent image failure issue bugs me, but PanF+ is my favorite film.


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    I was told by an Ilford rep that the main difference between the Plus and pre-Plus films is greater latent image stability. I hope that helps Clive with his question.

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    FP4 and FP4+

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Tapscott. View Post
    I was told by an Ilford rep that the main difference between the Plus and pre-Plus films is greater latent image stability. I hope that helps Clive with his question.
    I know that's true with PanF+ but not with the others. I'm not saying you're wrong at all, I just specifically remember the conversation about a guy with PanF+ that was left on his desk for a year before processing. Simon recommended not waiting longer than 3 months. Even with PanFPLUS


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    Well the PDF that's been linked to earlier in the thread has this comment about HP5+:

    The benefits of the new film, according to the maker, are a greater degree of compatibility with Ilfotec or HC-110, finer grain, higher sharpness and better tonal range.

    From what I remember it was much the same for FP4+.

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    Last edited by Ian Grant; 02-20-2013 at 04:37 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    HP5 Plus is my firm favourite B&W film in all formats. I sometimes use FP4 Plus in 35mm, but I only use HP5 Plus in 120 rolls.

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    Dear All,

    A bit late to this but anyway....

    The PLUS + emulsions were the vanguard of the new emulsions made in what was then the new fully automated emulsion making plant built here at Mobberley called EP2.

    Real benefits and improvements were made to the actual emulsions and their performance. In addition, and to this day, the quality of emulsion manufacture and batch to batch consistency remains industry leading.

    We don't 'DO' marketing 'TRICKS' our brand is trusted and respected for a reason, the addition of the PLUS was to designate improvements to the existing FP4 / HP5 and PAN F emulsions at the time, and to ensure our customers knew the films had changed, it was NOT a new 'design' emulsion therefore it could not be designated as FP5 or HP6.

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    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

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    Thank you, Simon. Very clear and concise.
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    I suppose if those upgrades had been made in the last few years the would have been called FP4.1 and HP5.1.


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    FP4 and FP4+

    I have some HP3 from 1963. What's the difference from this to HP5+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    I have some HP3 from 1963. What's the difference from this to HP5+?

    (I'm kidding)
    About 50 years.

    Roger

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