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    I forgot about the Hasselblad and the Rollieflexes, however I mean new cameras that are reasonably priced, to be used everyday similar to the Nikon F3, Canon F1 Nikon F100 Minolta Dynax 9 or even the likes of something similar to the Pentax MX/ME. t least the manual mechanical cameras are still able to be repaired

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMbikerider View Post
    The same is apparent here in UK as well (to me at any rate). Ilford are back up to what they were selling before 2000 since SFX was brought back. Papers are still readily available. Kodak - well they have lost out big time with demise of a few B&W films, all their printing papers and all their other slide films. Fuji has cut back too. Agfa has had a slight reincarnation with colour film and the B&W, plus Rodinal is available once again, but no papers.

    However the biggest difference for me anyway is the number of materials available, which originate in the old eastern European area.

    It is OK having all these materials from whatever source available, but there will come a time when a lot of the cameras we are using now simply cannot be repaired and there is nothing to replace them. As far as I am aware there is only two film cameras made which are of the 'quality' end of the market, the Nikon F6 and the Leica rangefinders. (I am not sure about their film R cameras). However these are too much for every day man to buy and will remain a specialist buy or for someone with a lot of money.

    There are a few cheaper end cameras originating from China but that is it. No new medium format apart from a couple of very expensive rangefinder models from FUJI. No Rollieflexes, Bronicas or Mamiyas.
    Black and white is doing great. In the eastern European stuff there's the Adox version of the Agfa MCC paper, which is excellent. Ilford of course makes wonderful materials.

    We need more selection in color, especially if Kodak folds, I agree, and in new cameras. Right now the used market is sufficient, which is why there aren't more new film cameras. But if the market comes back enough, I'd expect them to be more available again. I'm glad I bought my Pentax LX when the prices were much better than they are now - and I might want to start thinking about that Rollieflex I want "some day" and get it sooner rather than later!

    I also really want a new 4x5 to replace my very old barely functional Tech III but fortunately those are readily available new in some really good designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    Black and white is doing great. In the eastern European stuff there's the Adox version of the Agfa MCC paper, which is excellent. Ilford of course makes wonderful materials.

    We need more selection in color, especially if Kodak folds...
    It isn't hard to imagine that one day in the not too distant future we might not have color films any more, only black and white. B&W appeals directly to us DIY types, while color still requires a bit of a fuss. (Yes, I know you can develop it at home, but most people won't.)
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    Good heavens! I can see it coming, what with prices on eBay and at KEH.
    People are going to start hoarding cameras! I'm already thinking a couple of more OM-1 bodies wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe an extra 50mm 1.8, a 35mm 2.8, actually,..... maybe 3 bodies, and a few spare parts.
    I'll tell you, it's gonna happen. (I know that for a fact, because I actually bought a second OM-1 the other day, and I'm looking for another, or maybe 2).
    Should I freeze them?
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    I am interested to know how Germany and Adox-Fotowerke have ended up in Eastern Europe?! There is a well known Central European manufacturer, with a wide range of products, in the Czech Republic -- one of their distributors is even a sponsor here. I refer of course to Foma Bohemia.

    In Eastern Europe there are at least a couple of paper manufacturers (Slavich and ??) and perhaps one film producer too, though their products are unfortunately not widely distributed - even in Western and Central Europe.

    The take up of silver products would be larger if people knew that they are still produced and are easily available. I talk to surprisingly many people who are convinced that Kodachrome was the last film being produced in the world.

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    the local junior college has a great photo department. they offer 3 levels of black and white only classes and two color classes. Full dark room with both B&W enlargers and color. they are ususually the first to fill up at the college, including the night classes. The second B&W class focuses on med format and they will even provide the cameras! and if you get to the lab late you cant ever get an enlarger! its great to see

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    Ha! This is great. And as a funny story to go with that... A few weeks ago I was at a coffee shop in Dickinson, ND (part of the ND oil boom here in the states). It's a pretty small town other than the insane amounts of oil related infrastructure all over. Anyway, there was this guy sitting a few tables away from me. He looked like a college kid with the "hipster" kind look to hm. He was reading two books, one was "Eat, Love, Pray" (?!?!?) and the other "Film is not dead". And he had an old school 35mm camera with him. I thought the whole thing was pretty comical but I appreciated seeing a film shooter in the middle of nowhere ND. Even if he was doing it simply to make a fashion statement. Whatever their motives I do hope these young kids really do get the analog bug and stick with it

    And as far as "cool girls shoot film" group, I "like" their facebook page. It's a nice group with some talent but I find it a little empty (and this is coming from a female). Most of their updates are photos of their "cool" old cameras but really no discussion about actual photography or expanding your skills or vision. I must say, as a female I'm a little disappointed. Female photographers have an uphill battle in this field to begin with and this site (at least the FB page) isn't helping much IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMbikerider View Post
    I forgot about the Hasselblad and the Rollieflexes, however I mean new cameras that are reasonably priced, to be used everyday similar to the Nikon F3, Canon F1 Nikon F100 Minolta Dynax 9 or even the likes of something similar to the Pentax MX/ME. t least the manual mechanical cameras are still able to be repaired
    I'm looking at B&H's new film cameras available, and I see: Mamiya 7 and RZ67, Voigtlander R2, R3, and R4, Fuji/Voigtlander GF667, Vivitar 35mm SLR, Zeiss Ikon RF, Canon EOS 1V, Nikon F6, Leica MP and M7, Rollei 6008, Rollei TLR...

    Yes only the R2/3/4 and the Vivitar are under 1000 dollars, but honestly, if you're looking to buy a film camera brand new, you're probably not looking for something less than that anyway. If someone really wants to shoot film in a new camera they can get an R4 and a 35mm Skopar for 1200 dollars (which is the same price as a mid-range DSLR). Although I don't really know why you would want to do that if you can buy an M2 or M3 for the same price, pick up a used CV, Zeiss, or Leica lens and be better off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMbikerider View Post
    I forgot about the Hasselblad and the Rollieflexes, however I mean new cameras that are reasonably priced, to be used everyday similar to the Nikon F3, Canon F1 Nikon F100 Minolta Dynax 9 or even the likes of something similar to the Pentax MX/ME. t least the manual mechanical cameras are still able to be repaired
    Depends on your idea of reasonable. Voigtlander do a few models of range finder in 35mm and 6x6/6x7. Fujifilm still make compacts and the 6x6/6x7 range finders. Phenix and the like do SLRs for pretty much free, and there is the Nikon F6 still being made if you want.

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    Upturn in Analog Photography

    Time to hoard film cameras as their prices are only going to go up!
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