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    Since you don't use 35mm, you don't have to worry about grain size. So there is no need for Tmax or Delta.

    Go traditional, as severak others have pointed out already. FP4+ is my favorite, but I also use EFKE R25 and R100, PL25 and PL100. I used to use Agfa APX100 too, but that film was so good they killed it...

    As to developer, my advice is far more unusual: Neofin blau.
    Very sharp, a little grainy, and absolutely perfect for EFKE films - they were literally made for each other! It is a little expensive, but easy to make if you can get hold of the ingredients. Well - not Neofin, but "Beutler's developer", which is quite similar but not identical. If you can get Metol, sodium sulfite and potassium carbonate you can make a lot of developers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole

    ...As to developer, my advice is far more unusual: Neofin blau.
    Very sharp, a little grainy, and absolutely perfect for EFKE films - they were literally made for each other! It is a little expensive, but easy to make if you can get hold of the ingredients. Well - not Neofin, but "Beutler's developer", which is quite similar but not identical. If you can get Metol, sodium sulfite and potassium carbonate you can make a lot of developers!
    I use a lot of EFKE R25 and R100 (120 roll film), PL25 and PL100 (4x5, 5x7 and 8x10).

    In my personal experience, these Efke films work well with many different developers, including Rodinal, Agfa-8 and Beutler (see the APUG Chemical Recipe section).

    The Ascorbic Acid based developers (Xtol, PC-TEA, M(Metol)C-TEA, etc) also work very well with these films, in my experience.

    D-76 and ID11 have been reported to work well with the Efke films, but I have not tried them.

    My personal choice of developer for Efke 25 and Efke 100 is Pyrocat-HD. Most of my current work is contact printed on Azo.
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    Beutles?

    Hey guys-where is the beutler's recipe hiding out? I know I've seen it but can't seem to locate it. Developer;non-staining right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peters
    Hey guys-where is the beutler's recipe hiding out? I know I've seen it but can't seem to locate it. Developer;non-staining right?
    Peter
    Right. And since it's old, and basic, it's on page one. As "The Original Beutler's".
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    It is hiding in the APUG Chemical Recipes section.
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    Thanks

    Thanks tom and Ole -just wasn't going back far enough in the file to find it. Now to see if I want to try this developer on Efke 100
    Thanks again,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stanworth
    I think you ought to mention if there are any brands you cannot get first. Going for easy to get bigger brands makes sense......
    I'd make my orders at www.fotoimpex.de is in Germany; it has almost any film or developer mentioned in this thread at a good prices, compared to Italian average.

    Ok, I want to try the FP4+. But I've not decided yet which developer I shall use/buy. Since I do not shot very much (for now) I'd go for a long-lasting reliable liquid developer. Grain isn't an issue, because of the larger formats. Wide tonal range and a smooth contrast is what I'm looking for. I think I'll start with Agfa MC paper and Neutol WA (since I like warmer tones).

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    If you want long lasting HC110 again fits the bill and I have heard time and time again that it meshes with FP4 plus really really well (tho I have not use this combo). Off the shelf materials, loads of people use them both so could help you out with answeres to questions etc.

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    I'm amazed none of the Rodinal mafia have popped up on this thread yet....

    If you want long life and are not worried about grain and want sharpness and good tonality when Rodinal is your man! A bottle of Rodinal will last forever. Cheap too as you use it at very high dilution (1+25 or more).

    Cheers, Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob F.
    I'm amazed none of the Rodinal mafia have popped up on this thread yet....

    If you want long life and are not worried about grain and want sharpness and good tonality when Rodinal is your man! A bottle of Rodinal will last forever. Cheap too as you use it at very high dilution (1+25 or more).

    Cheers, Bob.
    Well, I'm not a member of the inner circle, but I am a Rodinal user.

    [/QUOTE=Tom Hoskinson]
    I use a lot of EFKE R25 and R100 (120 roll film), PL25 and PL100 (4x5, 5x7 and 8x10).

    In my personal experience, these Efke films work well with many different developers, including Rodinal, Agfa-8 and Beutler (see the APUG Chemical Recipe section)...
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