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    Good B&W film to use without a filter?

    Any ideas on some B&W 35mm film that I can use on a P&S that doesn't accept filters or have a manual ASA selection? I'm not sure if there are any current B&W films that do not need a yellow filter to get a good separation of colours. Even better if it was something cheap like Kentmere or Arista

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    Any of them will work fine.
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    any film will work.
    the camera reads DX code.

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    Ilford XP-2 Super; wide latitude, fine grain, C-41 processing. You can always hold or tape a filter in front of the camera's lens. BTDT.

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    Dear Shootar401,

    I agree with Mark. However, unless you plan on pumping a lot of film through your p&s, is a buck or two that important? The time spent making a decent working print on RC from a half dozen good frames and if there is a good enough one to make a good finished print, the price per hour difference is non-existent. Further, add in all the test prints, chemicals, washup time and it's hardly any savings at all.

    Having said that, here is a quick scan of a kentmere 400, this was outdoor and overcast with no filterClick image for larger version. 

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    The times the use of yellow filters was common were many decenniums ago...

    And even then a yellow filter was only used in some situation (eg. skies).
    Last edited by AgX; 06-08-2013 at 12:18 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    In my experience the only time you mayneed to use a filter is when a large portion of sky is incorporated in the pictures. Even in this case if you cannot see any clouds then a filter will not help. In all other cases the panchromatic sensitivity of the film should give the correct rendition. The idea that you must always use a filter goes back to the days of orthochromatic films.
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    Tmax 400 may be a suitable choice. It has slightly lower blue sensitive and I've noticed skies look quite good with it. There is a clear separation between sky cloud and foreground.

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    Any Black & White film can be used without a filter as long as it is not infrared film.
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    Nothing beats a great piece of glass!

    I leave the digital work for the urologists and proctologists.

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    As Simon just mentioned, Tmax films. They are not as sensitive to blue light as conventional films. I find that the skies with TMax tend to look more like skies when conventional films are used with a yellow filter.
    At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.

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