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    The problem with rodinal is that newbies get brainwashed by other bewbies about how it's magical as a stand developer. There's so much BS conceptions flying around and when someone experienced and reasonable gives PROPER advice, he is automatically called a troll by the... Unexperienced.

    Personally, I like rodinal with Hp5. The grain is just beautiful! Apx100, tmax100, fp4, plus-X...
    Don't we hate digital because of the lifeless, ugly and super clean files? Give me grain!

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    Edited quote.

    The problem with _________ is that newbies get brainwashed by other bewbies about how it's magical as _______.
    Just fill in the blanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by NB23 View Post
    Don't we hate digital(?)
    No, this just isn't where we talk about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NB23 View Post
    The problem with rodinal is that newbies get brainwashed by other bewbies about how it's magical as a stand developer. There's so much BS conceptions flying around and when someone experienced and reasonable gives PROPER advice, he is automatically called a troll by the... Unexperienced.

    Personally, I like rodinal with Hp5. The grain is just beautiful! Apx100, tmax100, fp4, plus-X...
    Don't we hate digital because of the lifeless, ugly and super clean files? Give me grain!
    Have you watched the OP's video, he's hardly a newbie....

    Why do we always have the "council" who interject that deviating from manufacture's standards will cause the destruction of analog photography.

    Sir Alexander Fleming* my friends.....

    ...observed that colonies of the bacterium Staphylococcus aureus could be destroyed by the mold Penicillium notatum
    Last edited by zsas; 06-29-2013 at 12:36 PM. Click to view previous post history.
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    The beauty of forums is that someone can ask a question and receive a wide variety of ideas and opinions.

    That's why I asked the question in the first place and that's why I took those ideas (except the different films/developers) and put them into a single experiment, so that I and others could see what did what.
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    I'm gonna baseline this thread, OP has a ton'a HP5+ and Rodinal, he wants less grain, he tried adding salt and that didnt affect the grain, though he did notice that the 1:100 stand dev with salt achieved a result that he preferred. He's going to print it and see if it meets his needs. If the grain is not what the OP desires oh well, I am sure he will move to a different dev....

    Why all the Debbie Downers here? Seems to me the OP is having fun and sharing which studies show are both highly correlated to happiness.....
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    Not talking about the op. I was talking about the rodinal-stand-developmrnt internet hype which, yes, is hyped up by newbs most of the time.

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    ^Didn't the OP just prove your point, he said, and I quote:

    Both the standard 1:25 and 1:100 appear to make similar images
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    Me for example was quite scared about any agitation scheme when I first start developing of my own. So I naturally felt stand development was more comfortable.

    After a while you may realize that you don't belong to extreme contrast taming culture.
    OM-1n: Do I need to own a Leica?
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    Holga 120GFN: Amazingly simple yet it produces outstanding negatives to print.

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    Am I the only one who sees uneven development in the 4th image? (1:100+salt). Right hand side. A less busy subject will show that even more. Stand and semi-stand is risky that way.

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    Definitely lighter to the right.
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