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    marks on film/sticking in archival sleeves

    I just developed a roll of black and white film for the first time yesterday. I let the film dry for about an hour a half, than cut the film and loaded it onto Printfile Archival sleeves. The negatives where not going into the sleeves easily and they had to be forced in. I think the negatives had not yet dried completely so the emulsion side was still a bit sticky.

    Now the negatives seem stuck in the sleeves:
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    I can force them out with a bit of effort but they have marks on them:
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    I tried cleaning one of the strips with water and wiping with a microfibre cloth, which cleaned the marks, but it would still stick onto the sleeves.


    Anybody have any suggestions on how to deal with this?

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    Make sure the film is completely dry before cutting and sleeving. I always wait 12-24 hours.

    For now, don't re-sleeve your strips. Hang them for awhile longer. Don't try to pull the strips out. Use a blade to cut along the edge of the negatives. Then, use a fresh sleeve. Once wet, I've never had any luck with a sleeve.

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    The reason they "seem stuck in the sleeve" is because they are.

    First, leave the film to dry longer. Resist the temptation to sleeve your freshly processed film. Moisture often accumulates in the sprockets or elsewhere on the roll, especially at the bottom. If you're in a hurry to print freshly processed film, use a hair dryer at a distance and on low heat but remember you may be blowing stuff onto your wet negs that you don't want to do.

    As far as sleeving, my preference is glassine over plastic. (BH in NYC has glassine sleeves, among other outfits that sell them). But once you're stuck, rather than forcing it out, get some photo-flo solution (Kodak), mix a capfull in a pint or so of water, carefully slit the sleeve open as best you can without forcing it off the stuck image, then immerse the sleeve in that solution until it either comes loose on its own or you can gently pry the sleeve off the film. Rewash it, photo-flo it and hang it out to really thoroughly dry in a preferably dust-free environment.
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    OUCH!

    I am really sorry to hear about your problem. On the other hand welcome to APUG.
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    You MUST make sure the film strips are completely dry before handling them and putting them in the sleeves. Having them dry to touch isn't actually good enough.... When films are not completely dry, emulsions (imaging surface) is actually very soft and will scratch very easily. If they are excessively high in moisture content (like yours), they will stick like that.

    You can soak them in water and dry them overnight. DO NOT rub them with your microfiber cloth or anything else for that matter. You'll just damage that much more.

    Really... dry overnight... it's the safest way.
    Develop, stop, fix.... wait.... where's my film?

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    1.5 hours is not long enough. I know they may feel dry to the touch but they aren't dry all the way through yet. It takes hours for this to happen. Sorry you had to learn this the hard way! Don't let it discourage you.

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    I rewashed the negatives in a tray than hung them up to dry again and left them for the whole night. Still had the same issue in the morning, the plastic sleeves stick onto the emulsion side and leave marks.

    Anybody else having this problem with the plastic Printfile sheets from FreestylePhoto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santaji View Post
    I rewashed the negatives in a tray than hung them up to dry again and left them for the whole night. Still had the same issue in the morning, the plastic sleeves stick onto the emulsion side and leave marks.

    Anybody else having this problem with the plastic Printfile sheets from FreestylePhoto?
    Are you sleeving your negatives in an area of high humidity? If so, any closely fitted sleeves may be a challenge.
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    Yes, I'm located in Mumbai, India and the weather is very humid right now.

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    In warm conditions, wearing fluffless cotton photographic gloves can keep any moisture from the hands away from the film.

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