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    FP4+ and Ilfosol 3

    Went to the DC Calumet, to pick up some HC-110. They didn't have it, but had a bottle of Ilfosol 3. Ilford recommends 4.25 minutes, and I don't like processing times under 5-6 minutes, especially since I plan on using a 4 -120 roll tank. Since I've never used it, I plan on trying one in a single roll tank, but I still think 4.25 seems a little short. I shot it at just under box speed (100). Anyone with any experience with this combination? If so, are you finding 4.25 correct?
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    I do large format fp4 for 11 minutes in Ilfosol 3, constant agitation with a presoak.
    "There are a great many things I am in doubt about at the moment, and I should consider myself favoured if you would kindly enlighten me. Signed, Doubtful, off to Canada." (BJP 1914).

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    Bill- which dilution, temperature, and what speed are you shooting it at?
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    Eddie - maybe use the 1+14 dilution. Ilford says 7:30 for FP4 (see link below). Do some tests first, of course.

    http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/201142795941192.pdf

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    Michael- I'm wondering what they mean by a small trade off in image quality at the higher dilution. I may try a roll, at each dilution, and see how "small".

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    Tough to say. Perhaps slightly grainier, or slightly flatter gradation. Whatever differences are likely very small. It's a high pH developer and according to Ilford is oriented a little more in the sharpness direction vs fine grain. They don't recommend it for pushing (in case you were planning on that).

    Didn't they have any ID-11/D-76 ?

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    This was the only film developer they had- a 500ml bottle. I asked for HC-110, but the salesperson said Kodak hasn't made it in over 5 years. Go figure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    This was the only film developer they had- a 500ml bottle. I asked for HC-110, but the salesperson said Kodak hasn't made it in over 5 years. Go figure...
    Technically, they are accurate about HC-110.

    Kodak licensed it to Champion (in North America) in the mid 2000s.

    So all the HC-110 we have seen in North America in the last few years was manufactured by Champion (in a former Kodak plant, by former Kodak employees), but sold by Kodak.

    Then Kodak went into bankruptcy, with Champion owed a huge amount of money.

    The very most recent HC-110 is packaged in new packaging in Germany. The packaging is apparently very similar to Tetenal manufactured product sold in Europe, but the HC-110 seems to be unchanged.
    Matt

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    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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    Yeah, Matt, but that's not what he meant.

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    Hey Eddie, I saw a "Moving Sale" email/flyer for the Rockville store.
    I assume the DRoom section is nil?

    Is there anything worth checking left up there for us apuggers???

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