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    HIE infrared film alternative

    Since kodak HIE infrared film was discontinued when i was ten and well, quite frankly i wasent shooting film then, i never got the chance to try it out, liking its characteristcs, i wanted to know if theres any other films out there with that high infrared sensitivity and no anti halation layer thats still in production and come in 120 size. Thanks!

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    As far I am aware, the only two infrared films still available are Ilford SFX (not a true infrared film, but pretty close), and Rollei Infrared. Apparently you can get aura effects by overexposing the Rollei, but I don't have any experience with this film yet. I used my last roll of HIE last year and am going to work through the rolls of Efke I have left before moving onto the Rollei.

    Why don't you try both and see which one you like best?

    Gone, but not forgotten: HIE and Efke IR820

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseontheloose View Post
    As far I am aware, the only two infrared films still available are Ilford SFX (not a true infrared film, but pretty close), and Rollei Infrared. Apparently you can get aura effects by overexposing the Rollei, but I don't have any experience with this film yet. I used my last roll of HIE last year and am going to work through the rolls of Efke I have left before moving onto the Rollei.

    Why don't you try both and see which one you like best?

    Gone, but not forgotten: HIE and Efke IR820

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    at least ill get to use those! Wow, those are beautiful photographs, what are the backgrounds to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseontheloose View Post
    As far I am aware, the only two infrared films still available are Ilford SFX (not a true infrared film, but pretty close), and Rollei Infrared. Apparently you can get aura effects by overexposing the Rollei, but I don't have any experience with this film yet. I used my last roll of HIE last year and am going to work through the rolls of Efke I have left before moving onto the Rollei.

    Why don't you try both and see which one you like best?

    Gone, but not forgotten: HIE and Efke IR820

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    also, what are your experiences with which filters are best to use with what infrared films.

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    In today's world, the strongest IR filter you can really use is the Hoya R72. The old-fashioned go-to IR filters like the 87 are no longer useable because the current films' sensitivity stops around 820nm, and the 87 starts transmitting light at 870nm. So you'd essentially end up with a roll full of blank film. The Hoya R72 cuts off at 720nm, so you get useable exposures. The regular red 25 and 29 are useable, but will give you a less pronounced infrared effect.

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    I agree with Scott -- I always use a Hoya R72. The days of shooting infrared with a red filter went with HIE. They're a bit expensive, but worth it. You might be able to find some Chinese knock-offs a lot cheaper, though the quality might be questionable (or not).
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    It is so frustrating that HIE went bye-bye.

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    A Kodak Wratten 87 actualy starts transmitting at around 750nm, with about 50% transmition at about 800nm so can be used with Rollie IR film (but not Ilford SFX). Exposures will certainly be a bit on the slow side but just about usable. It will enable as good a IR effect you can get with film these days.

    The good old Kodak wratten filter used for a fair bit of IR work was the Wratten 87c starting at 800nm and 50% at about 850nm. This is the one that wont work these days, (unless your going digital of course).

    (I had made a post about diffrent filters but it appears to be waiting moderation for some reason).

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    I had the different variations on the filter confused. Nevertheless, the entire 87 series ranges from challenging to impossible to use with the currently available crop of IR film. As much as I miss HIE (and I do, very much) I really miss the Konica - you could shoot it in the studio with hot lights and no filter at all, and get a very pronounced IR effect.

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    The aerial film Agfa Aviphot Pan 200 and Agfa Avi Pan 80 have some IR sensitivity. A 720nm filter can be used. They are sold by Maco using the names
    Rollei Retro 400s or Rollei Superpan 200 or Rollei Universal 200 or for Pan 200
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    Rollei Retro 80s for Pan 80.
    They can be used as universal film and as IR film as well. Both films tend to blocked highlights and must be developed carefully.

    They are IR capable but no fully replace of HIE.
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