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    TMAX XTOL

    I have not shot 35mm in a while, only been using med/large formats. Coming back to 35mm I am finding the grain of trix/foma100 in hc110 is bothering me where it never did in the past.

    I tried ACROS but don't like the look I am getting in HC110.

    So I said what the hell and ordered tmax 100/400 and XTOL to try.

    Much more expensive that is for sure.
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    Xtol developer will give more muted highlight tones. It is a really fantastic developer for when light directly strikes a surface. It keeps those highlights in check without looking flat. TMax film has a longer straight curve than Tri-X and Foma, and a different spectral color response, but it is also a fair bit more sensitive to processing variables, so you have to really watch your temperature, tweak your agitation scheme, and keep track of your developing times in order to get the negatives you need for your paper to work well.
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    You didn't say what specifically you didn't like about Acros/HC110.

    Anyway, both TMax films are awesome in XTOL at a variety of dilutions (and D-76 and other developers). TMax 100 and XTOL can produce the finest grained negatives I've personally observed. Acros is not far behind TMax 100 in terms of graininess, although it has a different curve shape with very high highlight contrast. TMax 400 has a very long straight line and is exceedingly fine grained for a 400 speed film.

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    Thomas - good to know, I am in direct bright sun alot of the time. Is this combination OK to use at higher temps, as long as all chemicals are held constant? Say 78 degrees?

    Michael - ACROS hard to say what I did not like. The middle tones seems real real flat to me, and for whatever reason the prints/scans looked like they were very cool, almost blue (even though they were not).
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    Kodak has recommendations for 75*F in their data sheets, so I don't see why 78*F would be a problem.
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    Dear Steve,

    The Xtol data sheet has times for wide ranges of temperatures and exposures. The cost of Xtol is insignificant by the time you've proofed the images worthy of printing. :>)

    Neal Wydra

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    Thanks Thomas.
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    Thanks Neal...the cost of the developer is more, but insignificant like you said. The film is about twice the price though.
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    even the film at twice the cost is probably insignificant as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebarry View Post
    Thanks Neal...the cost of the developer is more, but insignificant like you said. The film is about twice the price though.
    TMax is twice the price of Tri-X? I thought it was about the same. I see $4.29 a roll for TX and $4.95 a roll for TMY-2.
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